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  1. #521
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neptune View Post
    You could PL all day every day in XI but parties I ever had there with a PL were like 1% of the time.
    2 things:

    That's a low %. I think if you asked most people, their percentages would be higher.

    Second, powerleveling was about .2% as useful in XI as powerleveling is now in XIV. You literally can't compare the two. The extent of PLing in XI was basically a healer outside the part tossing heals on the tank, not getting a max level character to just slaughter everything for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Issac View Post
    There seems to be a handful of people here that refuse to see the truth of the damage this could do to the game. It's like ignorance, the folly of man.

    It's not about jealousy from veterans from launch.
    It's not about pride, or gloating from the top of the mountain.
    It's not about greed, it's not like anyone wants to have a "special class" by being 50. (That notion already doesn't exist.)
    It's not about the lack of content, that is being fixed every patch.

    It. Simply. Breaks. The. Game.
    I don't know how this couldn't be any more clear, any more true, any more resoundingly correct.
    Fail. The game isn't broken by something that is optional. It's not even like walking into a bugged area where you can't move. The only thing it breaks is your... immersion? LOL @ an optional activity having anything to do with the ability to play the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travesty View Post
    2 things:

    That's a low %. I think if you asked most people, their percentages would be higher.

    Second, powerleveling was about .2% as useful in XI as powerleveling is now in XIV. You literally can't compare the two. The extent of PLing in XI was basically a healer outside the part tossing heals on the tank, not getting a max level character to just slaughter everything for you.
    Have you played XI? Have you ever heard of Abyssea?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neptune View Post
    Fail. The game isn't broken by something that is optional. It's not even like walking into a bugged area where you can't move.
    I love how so many people think that just because something is optional, it has no effect on the people who don't choose that option. What world do you guys live in?

    Here's an example: If there was an optional NPC in the game that gave you every piece of gear that is currently made by crafters, you think that wouldn't hurt crafters?

    Have you played XI? Have you ever heard of Abyssea?
    I played XI for 7 years. You still can't even come close to comparing what we have in XIV now, to anything in XI.
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    Last edited by Travesty; 10-09-2011 at 03:51 PM.

  4. #524
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neptune View Post
    I just want to point out to those of you making comments like these that you are completely devoid of integrity in this. If you had integrity, you would exercise the option of taking the hard path, but instead you choose the easy and blame others for not forcing your hand. You do not deserve any effort from the dev team towards your entertainment since you are taking what's right there in front of you and ruining it yourself, like a spoiled little kid that breaks its toys because its upset.
    Wow really? Do you remember a time when mobs only gave 80-100sp each and leves didn't give anything. Although it was a bit extreme it felt like getting rank 50 was rewarding. Each patch after that it has gotten easier and easier. So I fail to see this HARD path you speak of. Heck, even 8 man leve linking had more of a point (even though it was an exploit). And please don't say sh@t about someones integrity when you know nothing about the person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halvaard_Vidan View Post
    It doesn't "break" the game if it's an intended mechanic.

    Yes it potentially hurts longevity, but so does every day that goes by without a new patch or the PS3 release.
    I think that's what's happening with the people who are opposing Isaac's view. When he says "breaks the game", he doesn't mean breaking what was implemented into the game, but more along the lines of breaking the potential longevity of the game, including its content, economy, etc. You won't IMMEDIATELY see it breaking the game - someone PLing to 50 compared to you won't directly affect you, but you'll see it in the world around you because the economy and environment will begin to reflect a world where everyone is rank 50 with nothing to do with a dearth of endgame content to play.
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  6. #526
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travesty View Post
    I love how so many people think that just because something is optional, it has no effect on the people who don't choose that option. What world do you guys live in?

    Here's an example: If there was an optional NPC in the game that gave you every piece of gear that is currently made by crafters, you think that wouldn't hurt crafters?

    I played XI for 7 years. You still can't even come close to comparing what we have in XIV now, to anything in XI.
    Oh, so as you said it has an effect on a certain group of people, you. So in other words the game is broken for you and.. not for everyone? Interesting.

    Quote Originally Posted by feint2021 View Post
    Wow really? Do you remember a time when mobs only gave 80-100sp each and leves didn't give anything. Although it was a bit extreme it felt like getting rank 50 was rewarding. Each patch after that it has gotten easier and easier. So I fail to see this HARD path you speak of. Heck, even 8 man leve linking had more of a point (even though it was an exploit). And please don't say sh@t about someones integrity when you know nothing about the person.
    You may or may not be a person of integrity but I am pointing out the flaws in what integrity you have. The path of integrity, or hard path, would be taking part in activities that are the opposite of what you are trying to complain about on here. You could put all of your guildleves on 5 stars all the time, but did you? You could not look up videos of dungeons. You could level crafting off of local leves instead of finding one easy recipe to level off of. You could try to solo NMs for gear you want. You could get your linkshell to fight hard monsters in the fringe areas of the game for the fun of it. You may or may not have taken the hard route on any of those options, but my point is that the game is hard if you challenge yourself.. but you have no integrity since you demand that the dev team force your hand.

    With that stated.. I'm just trying to get you to see how your flawed integrity is going to try to appeal for changes that will make the game a worse game.

    And about getting rank 50.. don't you think it is rewarding to get a rank 50 no matter if you got PLed or not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neptune View Post
    Fail. The game isn't broken by something that is optional. It's not even like walking into a bugged area where you can't move. The only thing it breaks is your... immersion? LOL @ an optional activity having anything to do with the ability to play the game.

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    Have you played XI? Have you ever heard of Abyssea?
    Are you blind? "YOSHI-P said that you wont get much exp for someone killing mobs for you that are higher level then you but right now people are getting full EXP or are you blind can't read that part? it broken it most be fix and they should never allow powerlevel in a game there other ways of doing it exp band,link account and so on.
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  8. #528
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    Are you blind? "YOSHI-P said that you wont get much exp for someone killing mobs for you that are higher level then you but right now people are getting full EXP or are you blind can't read that part? it broken it most be fix and they should never allow powerlevel in a game there other ways of doing it exp band,link account and so on.
    Dude calm down.. Yoshi-P said powerleveling is needed so friends can help their lower level friends close the gap so they can play together.
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    Only two more thumbs.

    Will say it again, hoping for a rep reply monday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neptune View Post
    Dude calm down.. Yoshi-P said powerleveling is needed so friends can help their lower level friends close the gap so they can play together.
    Once again yoshi-p said that but he said you wont get a lot of exp for your friend killing a high level mob for you which is not happening which is broken so you clam down and learn how to read.

    and powerlevel should not be allow your friend should work for it like everyone else that the point of the game to grind to max level for that just delete levels and allow us to do it all.
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