Power-leveling is absolutely BROKEN

[Zenaku]

I agree that PL shouldnt exist but i stopped reading when you tells me beating up crabs helps u learn how to do HNMs, i'm sorry nobody learn those while grinding of crabs and crawler.

o.o i learn how to play within a party how to do my role as a samurai. When i got to Sky my first endgame was Kirin you learn a great lot from Partying. What type of spell does what and how to avoid them like Sleep and where you stand and how you do your role. You grow and fight diff type of mob which most HNM have the same type of JA,WS,Spell or even the same look just HNM type.


So saying you don't learn from partying is wrong. Person who only"ONLY" solo would not know how to really work with others and do there job as a group.

[Chardrizard]

You can pay people to powerlevel and i mean you could kill lower mobs to get good EXP with exp chain even if there not in your range. I get your point what you say is true but at the end powerlevel should not be allow.

The only type of powerlevel i like was ffxi where a healer just cure outside the party. Sure you killing faster and it like the something but the party take a while to kill vs someone killing them within 1sec

Wait.. so its ok to powerlevel as long as its slower pace? /spinhead

And again if you have the money to afford PL chances are you already knows how the game works and doesnt need days of mindless beating raptors to learn the game (which was the initial argument that people cant learn their job well) and thats why you are just skipping out the painful part, also not all players can afford these luxuries.

[Mahayana]

I agree that PL shouldnt exist but i stopped reading when you tells me beating up crabs helps u learn how to do HNMs, i'm sorry nobody learn those while grinding of crabs and crawler.

ANY mob, be it a crab or a damn marmot, if it is the right level to totally trash the group if you don't know how to kill it fast requires skill and you learn skill by being in a party that defeats them. I see how you could think that a group taking down a mob who is strong enough to wipe the team is someone slips doesn't require skill.

I also feel the raptor parties need to die a painful death and there needs to be rewards for going after big mobs in parties

[Chardrizard]

o.o i learn how to play within a party how to do my role as a samurai. When i got to Sky my first endgame was Kirin you learn a great lot from Partying. What type of spell does what and how to avoid them like Sleep and where you stand and how you do your role. You grow and fight diff type of mob which most HNM have the same type of JA,WS,Spell or even the same look just HNM type.


So saying you don't learn from partying is wrong. Person who only"ONLY" solo would not know how to really work with others and do there job as a group.

I will agree to certain extent that party does help in some area like healers would be better when it comes to healing in group, melees learns to avoid conal moves or moving away from mages etc. But if everyone was so already great in skill after a ling grinding, no one would wipe in darkhold.. That was my point, endgame mechanic and basic mechanic are entirely different in XIV and you learn those from experiencing the dungeon firsthand and not from grinding.

[Zenaku]

Wait.. so its ok to powerlevel as long as its slower pace? /spinhead

And again if you have the money to afford PL chances are you already knows how the game works and doesnt need days of mindless beating raptors to learn the game (which was the initial argument that people cant learn their job well) and thats why you are just skipping out the painful part, also not all players can afford these luxuries.

Powerlevel in ffxiv someone kill 20+mobs and they repop within secs vs FFXI party kill mobs the same speed but they can just go on without downtime but still take a while to level. The same way better then ffxiv in my book even in ffxi i dislike powerlevel and everytime someone had one i left but if it was late at night and no one really looking jp only type of things i stay.

[Esk]

Have you considered that SE may be raising the Cap at Ps3 and making SP lots faster then so they are just being nice now.. Unlikely imo atm but a thought non the less.

Its a different line of though, If your right we#ll see it reduced at 1.19a
If it was intended we wont..

So wait and see..

[Blarp]

Because unfortunately its the only god damn way of coming in here and see a crappy community that does nothing but whining. I'm pissed off at all of this as you can see.

You're not helping to break that stereotype.

[Alexis_Arteme]

This is pretty good. There are literally two threads next to one another, one screaming levelling is too slow, the other saying it's too fast.

[Blarp]

I'm just not sure I understand SE's design methodology. Character progression is the most crucial part of an MMO. It's something that should be iterated upon and decided in pre-production and the varying stages of public testing. The year that follows launch should not have to see changes to that system, yet here we are for the third or fourth time with drastic changes to that system. And for the third of fourth time there's been problems with it. Progression is but one example of many where SE makes changes seemingly without considering the repercussions, and they ultimately end up in more of a mess than the last time they tried to fix it. This game has been in development for at least five years, and it's still not figured out. Doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

[Zenaku]

Have you considered that SE may be raising the Cap at Ps3 and making SP lots faster then so they are just being nice now.. Unlikely imo atm but a thought non the less.

Its a different line of though, If your right we#ll see it reduced at 1.19a
If it was intended we wont..

So wait and see..

That could happen but it would only be what maybe 10 levels at best which at this fast speed ppl can get it within 1day.