Power-leveling is absolutely BROKEN

[Issac]

who wants power leveling is who wants to reach max level and high end game quickly, for those who high end game is their incentive to play. Some people enjoy the game leveling their character through the weeks or months, some not, i think that who want to level the normal way they can do it, and who not, they go the power level way, what happen? each one play the way they want, its voluntary.

Right, because we love the idea of not getting any sense of accomplishment what-so-ever because derps are running all over skipping the entire game. No matter how you mince words, having a mechanic like that in place breaks the core foundation of what a MMO is. Not to spew rhetoric, but something like that doesn't belong in the genre because it's an entirely different breed of online game.

For the sake of simplicity, let's break this down.
Classic MMO: What we want to play.
Online Adventure Game (Let's call it OAG): What you want to play.

The two cannot coexist in one game. It's like having a toilet in the damn kitchen.

[Zenaku]

who wants power leveling is who wants to reach max level and high end game quickly, for those who high end game is their incentive to play. Some people enjoy the game leveling their character through the weeks or months, some not, i think that who want to level the normal way they can do it, and who not, they go the power level way, what happen? each one play the way they want, its voluntary.

You joking right? ok let see it in a person stand point

Level Normal way "/sh party do you need it /tell 20-28 "Person /tell you do you have a powerlevel?" If you say no they would say no thanks hands down.

No one would do the Normal way due to the fact is slow and pointless. Everyone would reach max level faster and then people who want to play the Normal way get left behind and have to also use there way. The only powerlevel i like is a healer outside healing the party you can get more exp per hour that way no down time and fast. But someone killing everything for you and getting 1-30 less then a day is bull

[Vahzl]

Power levelling was just as OP in FFXI. Remember the Summoner exploit (Gather a group of them, get a Paladin to train the entire dunes to them, have all their avatars out, pop level sync down to 14, Invincible, Astral Flow x5 on around 300 monsters > Players would ding Summoner 14-50 in a few hours).

We can't have everything, and if someone wants to spend their time powerlevelling someone, I don't see the big issue. Let them. It's like you want to be part of this world, but want to have no freedom to play how you choose to.

When did it become the norm to want to remove any aspect of fun from all MMo's, and this obsessive need for everything to be 100% fair, and no one to have any kind of leg up over you?

[Zenaku]

Power levelling was just as OP in FFXI. Remember the Summoner exploit (Gather a group of them, get a Paladin to train the entire dunes to them, have all their avatars out, pop level sync down to 14, Invincible, Astral Flow x5 on around 300 monsters > Players would ding Summoner 14-50 in a few hours).

We can't have everything, and if someone wants to spend their time powerlevelling someone, I don't see the big issue. Let them. It's like you want to be part of this world, but want to have no freedom to play how you choose to.

When did it become the norm to want to remove any aspect of fun from all MMo's, and this obsessive need for everything to be 100% fair, and no one to have any kind of leg up over you?

Issue is everyone be doing it then people who want to party can't make a party due to everyone just having a powerlevel. don't tell me no one willing to powerlevel which is not true i see people everywhere powerlevel right now in every big camp. No one is even /sh for party anymore i can understand ppl doing the quest for chocobo but still most are getting powerlevel.

[Issac]

Power levelling was just as OP in FFXI. Remember the Summoner exploit (Gather a group of them, get a Paladin to train the entire dunes to them, have all their avatars out, pop level sync down to 14, Invincible, Astral Flow x5 on around 300 monsters > Players would ding Summoner 14-50 in a few hours).

We can't have everything, and if someone wants to spend their time powerlevelling someone, I don't see the big issue. Let them. It's like you want to be part of this world, but want to have no freedom to play how you choose to.

When did it become the norm to want to remove any aspect of fun from all MMo's, and this obsessive need for everything to be 100% fair, and no one to have any kind of leg up over you?

Ignoring the fact that XI went downhill since level sync, I want to point out a flaw in your logic.

Sure, there were a few ways to increase xp/hr on SOME party configurations. I won't even call it an exploit for the sake of argument. However, in this situation, you can take ANY level 50 player and powerlevel a full group of ANY class. It is completely and utterly broken, there's simply no arguing that.

[Vahzl]

Ignoring the fact that XI went downhill since level sync, I want to point out a flaw in your logic.

Sure, there were a few ways to increase xp/hr on SOME party configurations. I won't even call it an exploit for the sake of argument. However, in this situation, you can take ANY level 50 player and powerlevel a full group of ANY class. It is completely and utterly broken, there's simply no arguing that.

You could replace up to 3 members at a time with any class, and still have the same effect.

[neizero]

I bet the OP is busy abusing this as we speak just in case they do nerf it.

[Issac]

I bet the OP is busy abusing this as we speak just in case they do nerf it.

Did you know that you were the fourth person to say something along these lines? If you're trolling, jesus you need a new muse because your creativity sucks. If you're serious? Learn to read.

[Zenaku]

I bet the OP is busy abusing this as we speak just in case they do nerf it.

Not everyone would go and abuse it, the fact is i dislike it myself. When i play wow for 2 month my friend run me and got me awesome item i thought it was bull. Sorry but most people are Abusing does not mean that the op is doing that also.

Powerlevel most be nerf it's not fun and getting fast level without doing noting i don't think that was part of SE plan,.

[Caliburn]

I'm not strongly against power levelling, but this idea that people can't complain about PLing because they're only going to go power level anyway isn't fair. The fact that PLing exists means that if you don't do it, you're going to get behind and you won't be able to access higher level content as quickly as others - even if you are "learning your job".

Basically, the fact that PLing is not only possible but freely accessible means that playing the game "as it should be played" i.e. not power levelling, doesn't actually reward you at all. Unless you just want the challenge, that is. And I think the majority of players will be forced to level normally anyway, not even mentioning the fact that PLing must get boring as hell (for both the PLer and the PL'ed).

I dunno. I find this new system silly. At least in FFXI (before Abyssea) PLing was merely having someone heal your party - it was just a welcome boost and you still had to beat the monsters yourselves - albeit with a safety net.