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  1. #191
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    DeadRiser's Avatar
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    Kipp Kaida
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Where are the reps at? I WANT A RESPONSE NOW. I NEED TO KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT RIGHT
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  2. #192
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    Myst Aura
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by LeoDeSol View Post
    He said this just before 1.19 was released and if the patch notes are to be believed, it looks like lower level players should get level appropriate XP for these kills with a cap on bonus for the monster being higher than them. YES, power leveling would still be possible, but for a 50 to power level a 25, each kill, even a level 50 monster kill, would only net the level 25 an amount of experience similar to what that level 25 might get on his own killing a even match 25 mob, plus a little bonus for chains and it being higher than him, with a cap on the XP. Meaning, the level 50 would still have to kill a similar number of monsters as the 25 would have to kill on his own to level. Is it power leveling? Yes. Can the 50 kill more monsters and faster than the 25 could on his own? Yes. Hence the question being asked of Yoshi in the first place. But could someone pull 10 level 45+ mobs, AoE them down, and instantly ding a lower level? NO. The lower level would get more experience than normal, but it would still take a lot longer than the PLing going on now, and would be virtually worthless by the mid 20s to lower 30s. Most higher levels would tire of it long before getting someone close 40 and certainly would not do it regularly for multiple people. In a way, it would be much similar to power level in FFXI. It would speed things up, make them easier, but be a drain on the higher level and not a super benefit versus a balanced group anyway.
    2.Difference Between Player and Enemy Levels
    Higher level enemies will yield more EXP, while lower level enemies will yield less. This revision will not greatly affect the amount of EXP obtainable. However, a cap will be imposed upon the bonus awarded to players for defeating higher level enemies'

    If this cap is indeed not working then yes it is broken
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  3. #193
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    Come on, there needs to be a rep on this subject. Please don't tell me that you think it's okay for something as broken as this to be left in the game. This WILL break the game's economy and render a lot of content worthless.
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  5. #194
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    Kytheren Kenni
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    Seraph
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neptune View Post
    [SIZE="7"]My mountain is getting smaller[/SIZE]
    [SIZE="6"]...and smaller[/SIZE]
    [SIZE="5"]...and smaller[/SIZE]
    ...and smaller
    ...and smaller
    ...and smaller
    ...and smaller

    to look down upon thee!
    How does this add any value to the debate? Is this just an assumption on the character of some? If it is, it is besides the point. The mechanic is glaringly broken.
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  6. #195
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    I like how people automatically assume those of us against such insane power leveling have some superiority complex over those who are not 50 yet.

    For me at least it couldn't be farther from the truth I have one rank 50 and would benifit greatly from such a stupidly broken leveling system but I refuse to use it as such because it cheapens the whole game. I mean why not just start us off at rank 30 if the devs don't want us to even consider being rank 1 for any considerable ammount of time.

    I guess someones gonna come in and whine that leveling is nothing but a "Timesink" and it's going to roll downhill from the sheer stupidity of that comment.
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  7. #196
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    Shiki Tohno
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    Excalibur
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    Alchemist Lv 52
    I remember the people who were clearly powerleveled to 75 in XI, boy were they useful in endgame parties. Oh wait, did I say useful? I meant the exact opposite, they were like a quadriplegic in a triathlon.

    Endgame content works because there is party cohesion, communication, and every single member knows their roles and limitations. The DDs know to hold back when hate gets sketchy, the tank knows how to keep the mobs eyes centered onto them, and the mages know proper MP conservation. PLing takes all these principles, and shits on them. After all, why does the tank need to keep hate when the high level can shrug off anything the mob does? Why do the DDs need to hold back if the high level just stomps on the enemy to the point where nothing will make it move off of him? Why do the mages need to worry about anything at all, when the high level is in no threat of dying?

    And then of course what happens is they get to a point where they can no longer be feasibly power leveled, and they're utterly incompetent at their job, much to the chagrin of those of us who like to actually work towards a goal, and we find ourselves in a party with them.

    I am by no means opposed to all types of PLing, I've been in several Valkurm Dunes parties in the past that only remained afloat because of the high level healer supporting us, but we still needed to kill the mob on our own. Like it is now, not only can the R50 do all the work for the mouthbreathers, they also get 100% rewards for spectating, and maybe successfully poking the monster a couple times. Way to give it the old college try, champ. Instant Gratification XIV will not only piss off those of us who like to put forth effort in leveling, but will also ultimately piss off the ones who cruise control to multiple 50s, only to find there is nothing else really to do for the time being, and stop playing.

    I have to give Yoshi and his team the benefit of the doubt and say there is some coding error here, because the fledgling hope I have for this game will not be able to withstand if he seriously thinks leaving things like this is a smart decision.
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  8. #197
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    Nei Prime
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    I don't see a problem here.

    So a friend can powerlevel you. So you can powerlevel a friend. Great stuff!

    All games allow powerlevelling in one way or another. You won't get powerlevelled beyond 40 with this system and 40-50 is about ~50% of total exp? So still some work to do there. Doesn't sound like the end of the world at all, more like the end of boring times grinding for way too many hours and fastforward to actual content. I hope SE keep this system as is.
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    Last edited by neizero; 10-07-2011 at 10:57 AM.

  9. #198
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    Amy Rae
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    You can only be powerleveled by the willing.

    It's a privilege of being high level.
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    (original by GalvatronZero)

  10. #199
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    Zenaku Yamada
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyRae View Post
    You can only be powerleveled by the willing.

    It's a privilege of being high level.
    Everyone is Willing they get Money in return, and many people would powerlevel for that for the right price.ppl are even powerlevel ppl in the stronghold from 38-50 and they getting 80+k a hour getting a level every few hour or less.
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  11. #200
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    Zeto Negi
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyRae View Post
    You can only be powerleveled by the willing.

    It's a privilege of being high level.
    That doesn't make it ok >.> That said, if SE has no plans on fixing it I'd be stupid not to get PL'd but I don't like the fact the options there...
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