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    Quote Originally Posted by Travesty View Post
    No, it's not opinionated ranting. It's the logical assessment of what will happen. If the the crafting community and the combat community they need to purchase their goods advance at wildly different rates, the economy will be screwed, period. If people are just leap-frogging all the lower levels, the lower level content will fall by the wayside, period.

    Just because his design represents freedom of choice doesn't mean it's not inherently flawed or executed poorly.
    Once again speculation. You have no way of predetermining these outcomes with anything remotely resembling accuracy.

    You say "crafters and battle classes being imbalanced" will destroy the game?

    Do you understand the inummerable calculations required to predict such an outcome?

    You seem self assured, so please throw some math into this.

    Im honestly intrigued, tell me numerically how this imbalance can occur, which items will be involved, which classes and at what lvl and how this all calculates in correlation to each servers individual population trends and buy/selling indexes.

    Please share with everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AreeyaJaidee View Post
    Once again speculation. You have no way of predetermining these outcomes with anything remotely resembling accuracy.

    You say "crafters and battle classes being imbalanced" will destroy the game?

    Do you understand the inummerable calculations required to predict such an outcome?

    You seem self assured, so please throw some math into this.

    Im honestly intrigued, tell me numerically how this imbalance can occur, which items will be involved, which classes and at what lvl and how this all calculates in correlation to each servers individual population trends and buy/selling indexes.

    Please share with everyone.
    And why they don't do this in others MMORPGs? Seriously man, why we need to do a full study about the situation with many mathematicians and scientists to defend our vision?

    It's a logical conclusion. You should also demonstrate your vision with large studies.
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    Last edited by Senprum; 10-07-2011 at 05:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AreeyaJaidee View Post
    Once again speculation. You have no way of predetermining these outcomes with anything remotely resembling accuracy.

    You say "crafters and battle classes being imbalanced" will destroy the game?

    Do you understand the inummerable calculations required to predict such an outcome?

    You seem self assured, so please throw some math into this.

    Im honestly intrigued, tell me numerically how this imbalance can occur, which items will be involved, which classes and at what lvl and how this all calculates in correlation to each servers individual population trends and buy/selling indexes.

    Please share with everyone.
    It's a f**king logical conclusion. Imbalance breeds imbalance. My lord.
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    So whats the point in making low level gear, low level dungeons, low level materia, and anything in between 0-35 if you can power level through it all?

    I my opinion, it's a waste of development time if it can all be skipped. Progression, as stated by many others is what makes an MMO an MMO. I can understand that there are multiple classes to level up, but you shouldn't be able to rank up this fast. It's just not right.

    People can disagree to disagree as they are doing in all these threads, but you can't deny that it's too fast in most cases. You can say that you don't have to power level, but how can you essentially group level if everyone is power leveling? Soon, most people will be r50, with very small amounts of lower ranked people. Don't make any more mid level content if you can rank up this fast. Like I said..


    Waste.Of.Development.Time
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senprum View Post
    Nobody is perfect and everyone can make mistakes. Remember that they were wrong in the release and they can do things that makes the game worst, not only better and better.

    I was very happy for EVERYTHING. I was in love with this patch. But I can't accept this situation. It has no sense, I don't know why my opinion isn't correct and yours yes.
    Exactly, humans are prone to error. So how are those in favor of abolishing PLing NOT in error?

    If we hold one to a standard we must equally judge the opposing force for congruency
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    So whats the point in making low level gear, low level dungeons, low level materia, and anything in between 0-35 if you can power level through it all?

    I my opinion, it's a waste of development time if it can all be skipped. Progression, as stated by many others is what makes an MMO an MMO. I can understand that there are multiple classes to level up, but you shouldn't be able to rank up this fast. It's just not right.

    People can disagree to disagree as they are doing in all these threads, but you can't deny that it's too fast in most cases. You can say that you don't have to power level, but how can you essentially group level if everyone is power leveling? Soon, most people will be r50, with very small amounts of lower ranked people. Don't make any more mid level content if you can rank up this fast. Like I said..


    Waste.Of.Development.Time
    How about reading the entire thread and not reiterating already asked/answered questions. Lets further this topic instead of spinning wheels
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    Quote Originally Posted by AreeyaJaidee View Post
    How about reading the entire thread and not reiterating already asked/answered questions. Lets further this topic instead of spinning wheels
    Actually, I don't have time to read the whole thread, so quit being a complete D*CK ok?

    And if everyone speeds to Cap with powerleveling, most people will only come back for the content updates. As what happened with the last 2 updates. People came and did all the stuff for 1.18. Yeah it brought a lot of people, but most didn't stay for long. I somewhat feel the same will happen with powerleveling. I just have a feeling that it's gonna turn out negatively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travesty View Post
    It's a f**king logical conclusion. Imbalance breeds imbalance. My lord.
    U mad bro?

    Logical isnt factual.

    Point is none of this can be proved to be gamebreaking. You can't.

    All that can be made are assumptions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AreeyaJaidee View Post
    U mad bro?

    Logical isnt factual.

    Point is none of this can be proved to be gamebreaking. You can't.

    All that can be made are assumptions.
    So you are doing assumptions, it's only your opinion. What's different? I have played MMORPGs all my life and I'm in FFXIV since Open Beta. Do you think I don't know what I'm talking about? I'm not a cryer, I'm a player that is worried about a bad situation for the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AreeyaJaidee View Post
    U mad bro?

    Logical isnt factual.

    Point is none of this can be proved to be gamebreaking. You can't.

    All that can be made are assumptions.
    So your argument is that even though a logical conclusion can be reached, because it cannot be 100% guaranteed to be factual, we should just wait and see, and if what was the logical conclusion comes to pass, the game is f**ked? Yeah, that's brilliant. Let's go with that genius plan.
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