Power-leveling is absolutely BROKEN

[Searious]

they could have made the plans for the future and that is fine, but the problem is they not only made the plans they implemented them. you want to talk about the future, but you fail to see the present has a bearing of what the future holds. you state yoshi hasn't raised cap to keep the new players from getting behind on ps3 release, but then support everyone having every class to cap in the next few months. look at it from a different point of view.

1. you can cap a battle class from 1-50 in a single day x 7 classes. that is every battle class at cap in 1 week.

2. it takes less than a week to cap a craft with the leves and grinding and will become even shorter after they add in this craft chain they discussed. that's 8 classes at 1 week each for a total of 8 weeks to cap all crafts.

3. the dol takes a bit longer to cap, but it can be done in around 2 weeks. there's only 3 of those so that is 6 weeks total.

you are looking at the rate in which sp is gained now a brand new player can reach cap very easily on every class in the game in a total of 15 weeks. the 2.0 is to be released in around a year from now which is 52 weeks away. they have not stated the cap would be increased on 1.21 like alot have been stating, but it was said it was something they would not consider before then.

i'll play devil's advocate and say they decide to hold off until ps3 release to keep people from getting too far ahead of the ps3 players, like yoshi stated himself he did not want. if they hold off you will have every class capped and every piece of content completed wayyyyy before the 2.0 version and the cap increase comes out. in fact you will have all classes done 37 weeks before the release.

that is why i said they are fine planning for the future, but until they decide to move the cap up they should not be making getting to cap this easy. they need to give things for people to continue doing until 2.0 is here and not assisting people to get to the little amount of end game the game offers now that is viable content. all it will do in the long run is assist people in finishing everything this game has to offer now and move onto something else.

it reminds me of the nm nerf they stated was because of the battle system changes and then the only high end content for months was super easy nm's. they made the change and then waited for months before they added something in that made the original move worthwhile. the dev team is doing alot of the "putting the cart before the horse" where they are taking stuff away and adding other parts before they finish what they started.

i understand you stating you are looking at the future, but you must realize that the cap is still 50 for now. yes, the cap will be increased in the future and then it is completely fine to make the trip to 50 easier after it is raised, but it should never be easy when it is still the max you can do when we know there is a year to wait before others will be joining the game.

This is only if you don't have anything else to do besides play this game. If you have other things to do the pace is fine.

[darkstarpoet1]

This is only if you don't have anything else to do besides play this game. If you have other things to do the pace is fine.

ignorance is bliss. i have friends that play an hour or 2 a day. i consider that small amount of time casual gamers. they work full time jobs, have kids, and are married, but come in to play just a little while after work to relax. even in that small amount of time they have capped multiple classes in the last week or so.

you can claim whatever you want, but the numbers don't lie. if you can get from cap in less than 8 hours it doesn't matter if it's 8 hours in a day or spread out over 8 days the time is still the same and way too fast.

this speed is too fast to even compare to most offline rpg's and they are meant to be completed fast, but they still take more time to get to max level.

[weeble]

vote weebles for president!! he will make separate server choices for all game types. check mark you game styles.

grind/long journey <> no grinds <> caps on quests and missions <> no caps on quests or missions <> no power leveling allowed <> power leveling allowed ...check mark witch ones you want .../load screen to your server type. yaaaaaaay no more 130page threads and we are all happy.

[Charismatic]

Aye, last time I even decided to log on I ended up getting my GLA PL'd up a bit... but only because I couldn't actually get a real party going and then my LS mates offered some power leveling.
Now, if I were staunchly against PL'ing I coulda just turned them down and continued to shout for the two hours I had left to play for the night... but I'm not, so I got free levels for about an hour and then chilled out for a bit before logging off.

[quantumsaint]

If they got 200k exp/hour, 2 hours a day, everyday for 2 weeks. They could get 3 jobs to 50 from nothing.

I got 90+ level in FFX-2 in 70 hours. Most other offline FF's we can get 90+ in about the same time. Why not XIV?

If they could somehow convince someone else to PL them, they could do this. Since there's so many people who hate this in-game and detest it such as some have mentioned. Than I don't see this being a problem.

I've spent 3 weeks looking even for a regular party in my playtime. I found my first one today. Broken? I doubt it. There for other people who are WILLING to help? Yup.

My LS helped me level quite a few levels. It's now on me to do the rest. Perfectly understandable, yet, where the *beep* are the parties? Where's this community SE wants?

Not on my server it's not Can't find a party to save my life.

Realty check is that most modern MMO's want to focus on endgame. Yoshi is not adding more low level content, he said it himself. FFXI is a joke for leveling now because they realized "MOST" new/emerging MMO player's don't want to grind. They want to just have fun, have a release from real life.

I tried out XI again this week. Got 4 jobs level 90 in one week. Fun times, because now all I have to grind on is the dam gear, not the levels.

Who wants to come home from there real-life job and escape to a second job? Not me. Not my friends, we want to enjoy ourselves.

XI is now 30-95 in a good full 10 hours or less. XIV is going that same route. Where's the endgame in XIV? Not so much here now, but it will be coming.

I hope beyond hope that anyone not liking the pay structure just doesn't pay and quits the game until they want to come back. Because this forum will have a lot less people whining about something they've been paying for free.

So what if someone paid for the game. That's 5-8 trips to McDonald's over the last year and is not worth crying about.

I understand people are upset by this because when we first started it was hard to level. Some people enjoyed it, some people wanted XI 2.0. We got this, if someone's not happy. Leave, send email's to SE about it. So many dam whining threads in this general discussion forum it's turning into ZAM all over again.

Q. There has been a lot of discussion about high level content, and some discussion of mid-level content as well (rank 25+). Will anything be added to lower levels to increase the playability at these levels?

A. Yoshida-san recognizes that low-level content is very important, but admitted that the current priority is high to mid-level content. He believes that not only is the high level content the most lacking, but its absence also means that there is nothing for low and mid-level players to look forward to. Immediately after addressing the high-level content, however, he will address low level content.

Yoshida-san went on to reveal his vision for low level content – which is mainly through quests. More specifically, for ranks 9-15 he envisions quests that will direct players to go to a specific dungeon (one per city-state). In these dungeons the players will congregate, form parties – and, most importantly, create memories. According to Yoshida-san, it is very important for players to have these memories of playing the early levels.

http://www.eorzeapedia.com/2011/03/0...ida/#more-6511

Seems like what he actually said is the opposite of what you're saying.

[darkstarpoet1]

I shall stand corrected on that one, I was looking at a previous interview lol. I believe we have two choices now.

Level with parties and enjoy the stuff in between, or beat the snot out of it with a PL and join our friends in endgame.

Personally, I want both options available. My wife wanted 1 job power-leveled so she could farm mats. She wants to level all the others on her own. Her choice.

She's loving it

pessonally, i'd prefer for people to actually level their own classes and not expect others to do it for them.

[Rau]

pessonally, i'd prefer for people to actually level their own classes and not expect others to do it for them.

Can you PL me?

[darkstarpoet1]

Can you PL me?

the asking isn't what it was in reference to. there's quite a few people on my server that not only ask for someone to power level them, but they will get mad and get rude with you if you don't. i don't mind leveling someone when i have extra time to do so, but it's like they expect you to do so that i have an issue with.

[Rowyne]

there's quite a few people on my server that not only ask for someone to power level them, but they will get mad and get rude with you if you don't.

That used to happen to me in FFXI. I turned people down right and left on my WHM who begged me to PL them for gil. And even though I am strictly against PLing, after I told them why I was against it I declined politely. I was never rude, even though their asking me used to feel no better than those who used to stand around and beg for gil (people too lazy to work for what they wanted). But some of them were rude when they got an answer they didn't want to hear.

I remember the ones who tried to change my mind. One guy got belligerent and argued with me for 15 minutes before I finally had to black list him.

[Sorel]

the asking isn't what it was in reference to. there's quite a few people on my server that not only ask for someone to power level them, but they will get mad and get rude with you if you don't. i don't mind leveling someone when i have extra time to do so, but it's like they expect you to do so that i have an issue with.

That used to happen to me in FFXI. I turned people down right and left on my WHM who begged me to PL them for gil. And even though I am strictly against PLing, after I told them why I was against it I declined politely. I was never rude, even though their asking me used to feel no better than those who used to stand around and beg for gil (people too lazy to work for what they wanted). But some of them were rude when they got an answer they didn't want to hear.

I remember the ones who tried to change my mind. One guy got belligerent and argued with me for 15 minutes before I finally had to black list him.

One of the downsides of Producer/Director Yoshida elevating "powerleveling" to an actual feature of the game is that it is more expected by lower-level players that higher-level players provide this "service" ... just like a non-crafter would expect a crafter to repair his equipment for a price.

[nostalgic sigh] Level Syncing was just so much better and well thought out. [/nostalgic sigh]