Power-leveling is absolutely BROKEN

[Jennestia]

8 people in a party 7 AFK 1 person attack mobs with stoneskin level 50 outside party AOE mobs --> Party gain full EXP. People would always find a loop hole in the system.

See? NOW people are exploiting if they do that lol.

[sWhiteboy]

This new PL should be an easy fix. They just need to make it impossible to hit enemies that are claimed by another party. I'm not sure why you could hit claimed enemies in the first place.

[Arximiro]

This new PL should be an easy fix. They just need to make it impossible to hit enemies that are claimed by another party. I'm not sure why you could hit claimed enemies in the first place.

Because SE is too lazy to make alliances

[neorei]

i don't think this would be really a problem if they just fix the leve system, it's acknowledged that it has become a bit harder since 1.19, it's frustrating for people to die on a even level leve over and over

[Bahn]

Because SE is too lazy to make alliances

If SE allowed you to make party alliances, would that even help the power leveling issue though?

[viion]

If SE allowed you to make party alliances, would that even help the power leveling issue though?

Yes.

alliances allow more people as 1 big group
this means no need for attackable claimed mobs
this means PL cannot kill attacked mob
thus PT suffer

Thus PL is completely removed
Which Yoshi doesnt want

But yes they too lazy to make alliances
But they have no intention of removing PLing

[Reika]

Determining power leveling
The standard for battle length from here on out will be 30-40 seconds to defeat a monster of the same level while soloing. It would take about 4-5 seconds for a level 50 character to defeat a level 3 monster next to a level 1 character. The level 1 character can obtain the full amount of experience points just by standing there. However, the level 50 player involved is spending their time leveling up the other player instead of playing other content.

At this point, it depends how the level 1 character feels about being "helped" by the level 50 character.

Forcing out power leveling
It is not easy to distinguish whether the above actions are an act of good will or serve the purpose of RMT or leveling up other characters for money.

By investigating logs, it is possible to identify for-profit violators and mete out punishment, but it would be very difficult to completely put an end to these actions. Doing so would require implementing very complicated specs, which will place a strain on ordinary users.

• Distribute experience points based on the amount of damage done to the monster
• Distribute experience points based on hate

The above methods were used by first generation MMOs to reduce power leveling, but these methods have their own problems. Players can aggressively fight each other over experience points, classes that do not do much damage are at a disadvantage, and for-profit violators can create bots that randomly attack monsters and steal EXP. (As I said earlier, we will punish for-profit violators. However, we do not want to ban ordinary players, so it will take us time to properly identify for-profit violators.)

One thing we would like to avoid all costs is EXP stealing by bots.

Conclusion
Taking everything into consideration, we understand that there will be pros and cons no matter what, but ultimately, we have decided that as a current generation MMORPG we would like to do something about,

"new players who would like some help, because they want to play with their friends as soon as possible, as well as players who are willing to sacrifice their own time to help out new players get involved in the game quicker."

We plan on implementing end-game content that is extremely difficult, so if assistance is necessary to reach this point I believe that it should be OK for players to help each other out, as long as there are players who are willing to help out.

Differences in gained experience points based on the difference between the player’s level and the defeated monster’s level will still exist, and will be adjusted. Our goal is to prevent any kind of extreme behavior. If any loopholes are found, we would like to fix these issues as they are discovered.

I believe that whether a player is playing seriously or not is a separate issue from whether the player is receiving assistance or not.

Personally, I am the type who believes that it is more fun to work hard and experience as much as you can first hand up until at least level 40, but if somebody comes asking for help saying, "I tried my best up until level 30, but I don’t have any more time!" I will help out.

Of course you would want your friends to enjoy an MMO that you enjoy playing, and if somebody is stuck in a situation where their enjoyment is hitting a wall, you would want to help out. Ultimately, it would be best for everybody to get along and play together.

I think the last system of PLing is what he really wanted, but just not what many of the players wanted.

[Tiraelina]

Now if we want to play with anyone below us we are restricted to archaic methods that shouldn't exist in a game anymore. The only reason it was such good XP was due to the chains. 40-50 is still going to be a total breeze only needing a couple hours in a stronghold, only the lower end is getting penalized.

[Petdo]

8 people in a party 7 AFK 1 person attack mobs with stoneskin level 50 outside party AOE mobs --> Party gain full EXP. People would always find a loop hole in the system.

I think in real party that gather from random people...you can't just afk like that because leader will kick you out...and if leader afk all people will leave party and form new party without him anyway.

So this onw fix all the problem.

But, if all members are LS friends..they have their right to afk as they want , but they must work by come back and do something to party also or else he will blacklisted too.

[Physic]

the thing you are missing here, is they dont want to outlaw power leveling, they just wanted to change its form. The point is they dont want to get to crazy and limit everyone too much. They figure power leveling really isnt that bad a thing, and in all honesty it isnt, its not required, it now requires a complete sacrifice on the part of the powerleveler. Lets be honest, ffxi was full of powerlevels, it was just a cure and buff style of pl, and now, its even easier.

Basically if you want to zoom through levels to cap, and you got the people to support you, they wont stop you, fact though is, someone is going to have to give up hours of their time to help you, because in the new system they get nothing for it, exp, items, spiritbond, nothing. And if you got a party of 7 people why not actually you know, kill stuff, even if you wanted fast exp, it would be faster if they just killed on their own with the person helping them for faster kills. your still going to run out of spawns anywhere but beast strongholds anyhow.

really its fine, there will always be some means of pling in a game, its foolish to go to far trying to stop it in every form. Even without current PLING a powerful ls, or rich friend can just lend one lancer a 4 materia slotted low level set, and he can murder whole rooms on his own easily. people can cure spam from outside pt, weaken monsters and run them till they lose agro, the list goes on.

The no claim system is made with open world large events in mind, specifically i think they said hamlet defense. i think you will have to wait for that to see the complete picture on claiming.