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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    If people wanna PL let them do it, I for one don't care. If you are so afraid of playing with ppl you might think they don't know how to play their class don't team up with randoms.
    First I though this is a sarcasm but it look like you re serious about this. Thank you for add another idea to killing the community
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shneibel View Post
    First I though this is a sarcasm but it look like you re serious about this. Thank you for add another idea to killing the community
    It's not killing anything people are gonna level classes regardless. People will get all classes to 50 pl or not people will get only the classes they like to 50 pl or not. Yoshi has stated several times he is ok with PL if you don't like it leave. No one was doing the low lvl content before people started pling anyway all these agreements are invalid.

    How does a group pling in a exp camp hurt your pt, if a normal pt was there exping then its fine but if a pl pt is there then its wrong that's fail logic to me, cause either way you was not gonna get exp in that spot anyway.

    If you do not wanna join a pl pt you can always just make one that does not have a pl people join any type of pt as long as it is good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    It's not killing anything people are gonna level classes regardless. People will get all classes to 50 pl or not people will get only the classes they like to 50 pl or not. Yoshi has stated several times he is ok with PL if you don't like it leave. No one was doing the low lvl content before people started pling anyway all these agreements are invalid.

    How does a group pling in a exp hurt your pt, if a normal pt was there exping then its fine but if a pl pt is there then its wrong that's fail logic to me, cause either way you was not gonna get exp in that spot anyway.
    right....first the community in game barely talk with each other, and now you suggest that they should not party with random (the no ls or other ls) as well mean you suggest that ppl should only play with their ls and stop play with other ppl outside (at least that s what I get from the "dont-team-up-with-random"), how is it for not killing community ? are you blind or you refuse to see that ?

    and hell the PL hurt my pt:

    They stole our camp and we have to fought back to get the camp back = waste of time.
    If we are being nice ( I am) then I ll go for other camp = waste of time.
    Take 1h to for a freaking MRD for pt and when you arrive at camp you see the class you were looked for is PL

    How does it hurt my pt ? you seriously asking that question that had been point out for the last 2-3 pages after your reply that I quote ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shneibel View Post
    right....first the community in game barely talk with each other, and now you suggest that they should not party with random (the no ls or other ls) as well mean you suggest that ppl should only play with their ls and stop play with other ppl outside (at least that s what I get from the "dont-team-up-with-random"), how is it for not killing community ? are you blind or you refuse to see that ?

    and hell the PL hurt my pt:

    They stole our camp and we have to fought back to get the camp back = waste of time.
    If we are being nice ( I am) then I ll go for other camp = waste of time.
    Take 1h to for a freaking MRD for pt and when you arrive at camp you see the class you were looked for is PL

    How does it hurt my pt ? you seriously asking that question that had been point out for the last 2-3 pages after your reply that I quote ?
    That is called bad behavior any normal pt could steal your camp that point is moot. If you don't want a pl pt then don't party with ppl who want pl i can find plenty of pt's that don't have pl's in them you guys are just over reacting. Yoshi-p is on board with pl if you don't like don't be a part of it.

    Now if you guys was saying Yoshi-p can you get rid of the bug where if an LVL 50 player grabs 20 mobs then is invited to an lower lvl party and exp is not reduced then yes i have no problem with that you guys just want pling gone just to be gone, and making false statements about small stuff that happens w/o pling
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    Now if you guys was saying Yoshi-p can you get rid of the bug where if an LVL 50 player grabs 20 mobs then is invited to an lower lvl party and exp is not reduced then yes i have no problem with that you guys just want pling gone just to be gone, and making false statements about small stuff that happens w/o pling
    I believe the highlighted would be an effective solution (I also believe DarkStarPoet is the advocate of such a solution). Light Party and Full Party should be the most effective source of XP in the game. Once that becomes true again, grind-parties will be prevalent again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorel View Post
    I believe the highlighted would be an effective solution (I also believe DarkStarPoet is the advocate of such a solution). Light Party and Full Party should be the most effective source of XP in the game. Once that becomes true again, grind-parties will be prevalent again.
    I agree with you but most of them are just screaming how someone getting pled ruins their game, even if they fix this problem, people are still gonna pl regardless cause then you only have to kill the mobs outside the party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    Now if you guys was saying Yoshi-p can you get rid of the bug where if an LVL 50 player grabs 20 mobs then is invited to an lower lvl party and exp is not reduced then yes i have no problem with that you guys just want pling gone just to be gone, and making false statements about small stuff that happens w/o pling
    Quote Originally Posted by Sorel View Post
    I believe the highlighted would be an effective solution (I also believe DarkStarPoet is the advocate of such a solution). Light Party and Full Party should be the most effective source of XP in the game. Once that becomes true again, grind-parties will be prevalent again.
    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    I agree with you but most of them are just screaming how someone getting pled ruins their game, even if they fix this problem, people are still gonna pl regardless cause then you only have to kill the mobs outside the party.
    That maybe so, but that type of PL actual requires the more effort and gives less reward than the currently implemented PL system. We're not against the word "powerleveling" or even the concept of it. It's that the existing implementation of powerleveling is broken ... and it should either be fixed, or not allowed at all.

    Personally, I believe that Level Syncing is a better implementation of all the concepts and benefits in powerleveling (i.e. helping lowbies, earning better XP than soloing, etc) without the negative baggage ... but that's just my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    How does a group pling in a exp camp hurt your pt, if a normal pt was there exping then its fine but if a pl pt is there then its wrong that's fail logic to me, cause either way you was not gonna get exp in that spot anyway.
    you ask how it effect my pt so I reply. And why are we jump from "killing-community" to "I-want-to-practical-in-pl-or-not" ?

    right....first the community in game barely talk with each other, and now you suggest that they should not party with random (the no ls or other ls) as well mean you suggest that ppl should only play with their ls and stop play with other ppl outside (at least that s what I get from the "dont-team-up-with-random"), how is it for not killing community ? are you blind or you refuse to see that ?
    but this is the main point I pick out your quote (about the killing community) and yet you jump to other topic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shneibel View Post
    you ask how it effect my pt so I reply. And why are we jump from "killing-community" to "I-want-to-practical-in-pl-or-not" ?



    but this is the main point I pick out your quote (about the killing community) and yet you jump to other topic
    I still stand by my words tho if people wanna pl let them do it. Most of you was just saying it's stopping people from learning their class or stopping from exping @ an camp when all these examples could happen without pling, if you can't see that then so be it.



    You claim no one talks to each other that has been the case since forever tho or could just be your server, also if i wanted to right now if i was on your server i could steal your exp camp without being in a pl pt.
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