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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    The real issue is the amount of SP people are getting by being powerleveled vs grinding.

    If PLing resulted in say; up to double the amount grinding gave, I doubt any of us would have an issue with it.

    The fact that you can get 500k-1mil XP an HOUR is the issue. No way its possible to get even 20% of that in a legit group.

    This is what I personally refer to as the "broken" part.

    If a grind party can get 30k an hour, a PL should give 20-50k an hour. NOT 800k AN HOUR.
    I just wanted to quote myself, pay no mind.

    P.S.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImrGLGJRL9c

    Can anyone tell me how getting 40-50 in 2 hours is fair and balanced?

    I'm not butthurt, cause I've been PLing my linkshell like a mad hatter, but how is this conducive of fair and balanced gameplay?

    Anyone?





    P.S. [SIZE="7"]TWO HOURS[/SIZE]
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    Last edited by DoctorMog; 12-12-2011 at 10:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    I just wanted to quote myself, pay no mind.

    P.S.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImrGLGJRL9c

    Can anyone tell me how getting 40-50 in 2 hours is fair and balanced?

    I'm not butthurt, cause I've been PLing my linkshell like a mad hatter, but how is this conducive of fair and balanced gameplay?

    Anyone?





    P.S. [SIZE="7"]TWO HOURS[/SIZE]
    Some games are all about leveling. XIV isn't. I'd say it's balanced in its own right. The only thing that needs to be fixed is the oust and kill method of PLing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephrick View Post
    Some games are all about leveling. XIV isn't. I'd say it's balanced in its own right. The only thing that needs to be fixed is the oust and kill method of PLing.
    since when? they have been back and forth between slow grinds to fast ones threw its history. from 15man parties way back to only getting such bad exp on just coblyns. to link leves that were awesome, then bad, then awesome now bad again. yeah yoshi says pl'ing isn't a problem but you would think a fix on how much would of came by now and should be. games that aren't about leveling are about pvp and this is a pve game. the game has taken lots of turns and they confirmed it to be ok but ....how much is gotten and how, needs to be fixed. make it one pl and 7 or 8 others that have to still do stuff for it to succeed not 1 person and 7afk people. make it like others said just 5-20exp an hour more. enough to want a pl but not needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephrick View Post
    Some games are all about leveling. XIV isn't. I'd say it's balanced in its own right. The only thing that needs to be fixed is the oust and kill method of PLing.
    Then what the hell is it about?

    I sure hope it's not what you people with all 50's are calling "Endgame" that would just be sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    Then what the hell is it about?

    I sure hope it's not what you people with all 50's are calling "Endgame" that would just be sad.
    It's about keeping us pacified until 2.0. Even after 1.20 we'll still be playing roughly half the game Yoshida intends to make. Each update brings new content designed around the mechanics and balances introduced in that specific patch.

    We are 2.0 guinea pigs, that's it. We're just beta testing core mechanics for the next version of the game in exchange for some shinies no one who starts in 2.0 may have.

    That's why, to me, this PLing thing isn't much of an issue. SE is asking people to pay for a still broken game in which they cannot afford to implement mid level content to justify a slower leveling experience. Sure, there's some stuff to do on your first trip to 50, but this is a game about leveling multiple classes to have a better character. There's just no reason to have a mindless grind in beta.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephrick View Post
    It's about keeping us pacified until 2.0. Even after 1.20 we'll still be playing roughly half the game Yoshida intends to make. Each update brings new content designed around the mechanics and balances introduced in that specific patch.

    We are 2.0 guinea pigs, that's it. We're just beta testing core mechanics for the next version of the game in exchange for some shinies no one who starts in 2.0 may have.

    That's why, to me, this PLing thing isn't much of an issue. SE is asking people to pay for a still broken game in which they cannot afford to implement mid level content to justify a slower leveling experience. Sure, there's some stuff to do on your first trip to 50, but this is a game about leveling multiple classes to have a better character. There's just no reason to have a mindless grind in beta.
    no, they expect us to pay for a game they feel is ready to be paid for. to believe this, yoshi, shows his inexperience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
    no, they expect us to pay for a game they feel is ready to be paid for. to believe this, yoshi, shows his inexperience.
    For YOU to believe what you just said shows your inexperience. Didn't anyone ever teach you not to assume?

    We've been playing an abused, newly-adopted kid of a game. SE can't just wash their hands and be done with it. They need to save face, at the very least. Yoshi is trying. Stop complaining. If you don't want to pay, then don't.

    The reason it's time to finally start charging is because they can't afford to give us 2.0 otherwise. Not on time, not at all. If $13 is too much for your budget, I feel bad for you. How complacent have we become because of the extended F2P period? Just take one painstaking glance at these forums.

    Seriously, why in the world is this topic still alive?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrekeLamorte View Post
    For YOU to believe what you just said shows your inexperience. Didn't anyone ever teach you not to assume?

    We've been playing an abused, newly-adopted kid of a game. SE can't just wash their hands and be done with it. They need to save face, at the very least. Yoshi is trying. Stop complaining. If you don't want to pay, then don't.

    The reason it's time to finally start charging is because they can't afford to give us 2.0 otherwise. Not on time, not at all. If $13 is too much for your budget, I feel bad for you. How complacent have we become because of the extended F2P period? Just take one painstaking glance at these forums.

    Seriously, why in the world is this topic still alive?
    and for you not to believe what the dev's stated themselves shows your ignorance. they stated the game was ready to go pay per play. i did not.

    the topic is still alive because, unlike you, they feel it is just as legit as it was on the 1.19 patch that screwed it and 1.20 just made a work around. the system is still broken is exactly why it is still open.

    13$ is not a problem. that 13$ very likely may go to another game that will be released tomorrow and is in better shape than this game is and it's been out over a year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    I'm not butthurt
    Actually, yes you do sound butthurt at the moment. Don't lie to us.
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