Power-leveling is absolutely BROKEN

[Sephrick]

1 to 40 in a day is pretty severe. It is essentially the same thing as letting people start at lvl 40.

Yeah, what with those SE-issued power levelers and all just waiting to grind for someone for six straight hours the moment they get out of the opening cut scene. Just like starting at 40.

[Kiote]

Yeah, what with those SE-issued power levelers and all just waiting to grind for someone for six straight hours the moment they get out of the opening cut scene. Just like starting at 40.

SE doesn't need to issue PLs because people just PL themselves. Yoshida hides his PL stance behind the fact that he wants friend to help level friend, but the truth is, most people PL themselves. The rest of the PLers trade off, 1 PLs the other for an Hour then they switch. This is blatant abuse of a poorly designed system. And no, that isn't going to stop when Subs starts or when 2.0 drops. Unless they fix this within the next two patches, it's here for the life of the game.

[Sephrick]

SE doesn't need to issue PLs because people just PL themselves. Yoshida hides his PL stance behind the fact that he wants friend to help level friend, but the truth is, most people PL themselves. The rest of the PLers trade off, 1 PLs the other for an Hour then they switch. This is blatant abuse of a poorly designed system. And no, that isn't going to stop when Subs starts or when 2.0 drops. Unless they fix this within the next two patches, it's here for the life of the game.

If someone has the money to buy two computers to run this game, and the desire two purchase two copies of it in order to PL a second character. More power to them


The "oust and kill" thing needs to be fixed. Most ideally by exp being determined by party level when the mob is claimed.

PL as intended is fine.

[Innes]

i agree with PL. i DO NOT agree with afk PL. simple. gl to us all

[Etienn]

I completely agree. It might as well be considered cheating >_>

No it is not, remember what Yoshi said.

[Baxter]

I don't know why people are so outraged over people being PL'd while afk. "I'm fine with PL'ing as long as that person is at the keyboard, and still not contributing to a damn thing".

Maybe I am missing something, this is confusing to me.


How are you for something that requires absolutely no work or contribution, but against the very same thing when the participants are afk?

[darkstarpoet1]

I don't know why people are so outraged over people being PL'd while afk. "I'm fine with PL'ing as long as that person is at the keyboard, and still not contributing to a damn thing".

Maybe I am missing something, this is confusing to me.


How are you for something that requires absolutely no work or contribution, but against the very same thing when the participants are afk?

probably because people look at it the same way as using a bot to level. if you are at your computer and can respond to things if a gm says something even using a bot they won't touch you, but if you are afk you can and SHOULD be banned for it.

i don't agree with the power leveling the way it is now at all neways. if they wanted to level sync people if they just "wanted to help a friend" i'd be ok with that because they won't be getting 10x the sp as a regular grind party does. even if someone stayed outside the party and healed while the party killed mobs i would be fine with. the join and leave power leveling is absolutely horrid to have people getting free levels without ever pulling out their weapon or getting off their chocobo.

[DoctorMog]

The real issue is the amount of SP people are getting by being powerleveled vs grinding.

If PLing resulted in say; up to double the amount grinding gave, I doubt any of us would have an issue with it.

The fact that you can get 500k-1mil XP an HOUR is the issue. No way its possible to get even 20% of that in a legit group.

This is what I personally refer to as the "broken" part.

If a grind party can get 30k an hour, a PL should give 20-50k an hour. NOT 800k AN HOUR.

[Smashington]

No mention of this problem in any of the Letters or 1.20, 1.21 patch descriptions.

Party search is finally coming at a time when regular EXP parties are obsolete.

[Soukyuu]

Party search is finally coming at a time when regular EXP parties are obsolete.

Exactly. I stopped seeing shouts for party because hey, why level your ass off if you can get to 50 in a day or two by leaving your PC online while someone else does all the work?

I got PLed a few times to get GLA for lolSentinel cause I hate the class and don't want to touch it even with a long pole, but it was just boring staring at the exp bar... while leveling my archer in a party was loads of fun.

The thread started way back when the PLer could just stay in a party and others would get exp - that was broken and not intended. Too bad they fixed it only in a half-assed way so that the party gets the claims even if the player claimed the mobs gets kicked.

In the end, it's the same as before the fix, just needing one person except the PLer to be active to kickinvite.