The main problem here is the pl'd people never want to stop being pl'd and they instead become more greedy and more people say "eff it, i'll just pl some levels too" and then they'll blame it on being "casual". Its sad to think that those of us given the opportunity to pl levels didn't are few, but then again, I don't know if I count, I have a 50thm, and a 34 conj i want to level up, but I'm not pling it cause I need guildmarks for it and I don't want to be gimp that way. There I guess either needs to be a change in how ranking between mob and pc is calculated, or they need to make grinding the hard way attractive for people. Or just eff those spammer people and make game ridick hard. Idk i want last one :/