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    Quote Originally Posted by Issac View Post
    Or if we care enough, and obviously you don't, we can work together to improve the game.
    I care, and I prefer it this way, so what you see as an improvement by making the game into a long chore and forced to play specific styles. I do not.

    I see improvements as: Choices

    So, I care, just not for your way of how you see the game to be. I see it how Yoshi sees it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    I care, and I prefer it this way, so what you see as an improvement by making the game into a long chore and forced to play specific styles. I do not.

    I see improvements as: Choices

    So, I care, just not for your way of how you see the game to be. I see it how Yoshi sees it.
    The way "Yoshi sees it" depends on player input as we have already seen. So, you have your opinion and I have mine. Let the majority opinion win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    Hey new flash guess what the forums are for? to change the stuff the game is adding he said to talk about it there even dev tag for every issue and everything he add omg how awesome is that they added a forums so we can talk about stuff and issue omg!!!! That what we doing and over 100ppl agree
    Quote Originally Posted by Issac View Post
    The way "Yoshi sees it" depends on player input as we have already seen. So, you have your opinion and I have mine. Let the majority opinion win.
    Yes we have a forum, we also can say we disagree with your opinion on it, but you seem to not like that.

    We can say in the forum we like power levelling. But you dont like that.
    We both have opinions but apparently my opinion is not welcomed, yours is.

    That there, is the bullshit that makes both your posts completely irrelevant.

    Not to mention, the fact that apparently, you say "Everyone" is doing it ingame, how is "Everyone" not the majority?

    What you think people agree on, is not bound by a number of likes or comments if "Everyone" is doing it.

    Lol.

    See, most of the time if something is nice and people are actively doing it. They are in game....Actively doing it. Only a few come on the forum to defend those. But when people dislike it their next action is to try change it, so they come here.

    So you always see a favouring in change over those who prefer it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    Yes we have a forum, we also can say we disagree with your opinion on it, but you seem to not like that.

    We can say in the forum we like power levelling. But you dont like that.
    We both have opinions but apparently my opinion is not welcomed, yours is.

    That there, is the bullshit that makes both your posts completely irrelevant.

    Not to mention, the fact that apparently, you say "Everyone" is doing it ingame, how is "Everyone" not the majority?

    What you think people agree on, is not bound by a number of likes or comments if "Everyone" is doing it.

    Lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post

    @Mindx3 Did you not read? there powerlevel everywhere and where should i go when i ran out of mobs around my range? you people are jokes i can't believe you want this system i'm sorry but over 100+ dislike this and agree this should not be allow.
    WE WIN! /10char
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindx3 View Post
    WE WIN! /10char
    So i said dislike by mistake got a issue with that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    Yes we have a forum, we also can say we disagree with your opinion on it, but you seem to not like that.

    We can say in the forum we like power levelling. But you dont like that.
    We both have opinions but apparently my opinion is not welcomed, yours is.

    That there, is the bullshit that makes both your posts completely irrelevant.

    Not to mention, the fact that apparently, you say "Everyone" is doing it ingame, how is "Everyone" not the majority?

    What you think people agree on, is not bound by a number of likes or comments if "Everyone" is doing it.

    Lol.
    You giving your view i understand everyone but the powerlevel still have to go. Top of that i don't even view your reason anymore viion listening to you here for months made me see the type of person you are.

    Sorry if you dislike it but yoshi-p is wrong powerlevel should not be allow too this type it's way too much.

    What yoshi-p is going back on his word on it should take players 3 and half month to level? If he goes back on his word on this what else can he do? Sorry yoshi-p have to fix this issue no one should level this quick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    You giving your view i understand everyone but the powerlevel still have to go. Top of that i don't even view your reason anymore viion listening to you here for months made me see the type of person you are.

    Sorry if you dislike it but yoshi-p is wrong powerlevel should not be allow too this type it's way too much.

    What yoshi-p is going back on his word on it should take players 3 and half month to level? If he goes back on his word on this what else can he do? Sorry yoshi-p have to fix this issue no one should level this quick.
    Why should no one level this quick, I think it is perfectly fine.

    Also you dont "View my reason anymore?" You going to personally attack me. That will do wonders for yourself, you cannot get by my debate so you have to go into personally attacking me as your last string of defence. Kudos.

    I hardly doubt you have any idea what type of person I am.
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    Why should no one level this quick, I think it is perfectly fine.

    Also you dont "View my reason anymore?" You going to personally attack me. That will do wonders for yourself, you cannot get by my debate so you have to go into personally attacking me as your last string of defence. Kudos.

    I hardly doubt you have any idea what type of person I am.
    Ok all i'm saying is the powerlevel is broken and it should be fix no one should be gaining that amount of exp. They should fix it and add other way to gain level that does not = someone afk and someone just AOE. That is what we asking for so maybe then people would go back to partying and we can enjoy the game together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    Why should no one level this quick, I think it is perfectly fine.

    Also you dont "View my reason anymore?" You going to personally attack me. That will do wonders for yourself, you cannot get by my debate so you have to go into personally attacking me as your last string of defence. Kudos.

    I hardly doubt you have any idea what type of person I am.
    I do. I mean, I don't know you in person. But we're so similar that the core banned me because they thought I was you. Remember that? Hah. I think you are a great person with a lot of talent. I think you are a good person overall.

    But that's not gonna stop me from saying you're wrong. But remember, that's an opinion, and I'm voicing it, just as you are.
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    Last edited by Issac; 10-10-2011 at 01:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    Ok all i'm saying is the powerlevel is broken and it should be fix no one should be gaining that amount of exp. They should fix it and add other way to gain level that does not = someone afk and someone just AOE. That is what we asking for so maybe then people would go back to partying and we can enjoy the game together.
    So now its finally coming together, it is a more deeper route. Your voice of opinion gives of that the whole thing should be removed and we should go back to 1.18. But we shouldnt do that, and you said it yourself there should be choices still (See bold quote)

    What I disaggreed with from the start id the fact you can claim multiple mobs and you get EXP for everyone of them, rather than just the one you are fighting. Maybe we should remove the main PL aspect (can have a 50 in the PT) and implment the penalities, but make mobs killing, be easier for those who wish to solo/duo because right now it is extremely difficult and those players have 2 options: 1. Get a PT or 2. Get a power leveller/friend. One of them requires lots of people and waiting around and time, the other requires a tell to a friend and off you go. Its more down to what is easily accessable?

    So I come back to the whole you thinking you know what type of person I am. I am not to bothered about the PL System, what I am bothered about is how long it takes to hit 50. 3months is not good, for a casual player that can be almost a year if they play 4 times less than the dedicated. No casual should be playing a game and know it can take up to a year to enjoy any content.

    I much prefer to have PLing than be forced to chore out all year long.
    Quote Originally Posted by Issac View Post
    I do. I think you are a great person with a lot of talent. I think you are a good person overall.

    But that's not gonna stop me from saying you're wrong. But remember, that's an opinion, and I'm voicing it, just as you are.
    Thank you,

    You can disagree with me 24/7, and I may disagree with you disagreeing with me! lol but it causes a debate and provides the devs useful information.

    Maybe people dont see it like that, the dev team and yoshi will have a clearer view if more people are debating and expressing their opinion and debates, rather than fighting each other.
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    Last edited by viion; 10-10-2011 at 01:28 AM.

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