Power-leveling is absolutely BROKEN

[Betelgeuzah]

Tell me how you think this game will all of a sudden be successful?

By becoming an actually good game. It's not going to become one "all of a sudden" though.

While simultaneously, having the brand name and the company to carry it farther than any other MMO could.

All they basically need to do is, with the release of versus XIII in 2013, include a free trial version of XIV and just like that you have reached out to millions of PS3 users who hadn't given the game a try before. It may be costly (and perhaps unnecessary), but it is effective.

When you essentially have the game in front of you (that is actually a good), which you got pretty much as a free gift along with the product you were going to buy anyway, yeah, I don't think the threshold to give it a try is going to be that huge. Retail revenue is not going to be the source of profit in this case anyway.

But still, it all comes down to the game being actually a good product at the time. That's all it takes.

[Zell]

My biggest concern is that if you can level 1 - 30 in two days... and 30-50 in another week... that means a lot of mid level areas/content is completely obsolete.

Also, what about all the R1-45 gear that is completely a waste. Why would you really buy armor or weapons that will be obsolete in one day. Why would you ever try to convert materia of a R35 item since you will never use it?

I think the power leveling shifts EVERYTHING to END GAME content. Everything that comes before that won't be used (content, crafting mats, crafting gear pre rank 50).

[Crica]

I think the power leveling shifts EVERYTHING to END GAME content.

Not for the players who are enjoying themselves while not PLing.

[Godking]

My biggest concern is that if you can level 1 - 30 in two days... and 30-50 in another week... that means a lot of mid level areas/content is completely obsolete.

Also, what about all the R1-45 gear that is completely a waste. Why would you really buy armor or weapons that will be obsolete in one day. Why would you ever try to convert materia of a R35 item since you will never use it?

I think the power leveling shifts EVERYTHING to END GAME content. Everything that comes before that won't be used (content, crafting mats, crafting gear pre rank 50).

Exactly. So why would they want this power leveling to this THIS extreme?

Doesn't make sense.

[Crica]

Exactly. So why would they want this power leveling to this THIS extreme?

PLing is an option for players who wish to PL.

Players who do not wish to PL have the option to not PL.

[Issac]

For something to be considered cheating, it would have to be against the rules of the game. Since PL at this current time is NOT against the rules of the game, that would mean PL at this current time is NOT cheating.

All gear can be worn at any level by any level of player to "spiritbond" with and then be turned into "materia". All gear of any level at any level, therefore, has a use for all players. Furthermore, players who choose to not PL have a use for all levels of gear.

For you. Character progression is still an option available "for you" if you decide to play FFXIV.

For something to be exploited, it would have to be used in a way that was not intended by the creator. Yoshi-P is not the creator of FFXIV, but he is the person who decides if something is allowed or not in FFXIV, so he is in charge of if something is being used in a way that was not intended. IF Yoshi-P decided that the current form of PL in FFXIV is being used the way HE intended, then everyone else is free to like or not like Yoshi-P's version of PLing and then choose to PL or not, but that does not mean anyone is exploiting PLing if they choose to PL.

If that is how someone feels, then the option to advance slowly is what they are looking for and is already in the game for them to use.

If enough players ask for this option and if it were possible to do in a cost efficient way, I am quite sure the devs would put the option to do this in FFXIV.

There would have to be a problem for you to find a solution for. People PLing like crazy is not a problem unless they were forced to do it and they did not want to. Since no one can force someone to PL when they don't want to, there is no problem.

Not for the players who do not wish to PL.

RMT can stockpile 50s anytime they play. It does not matter how many players are lvl 50 regardless if they are RMT or not. What matters is if the players and devs can "tell" who is RMT or not.

Right, because materia itself is the only thing we want in character progression. And the only purpose for gear from lv1-49 is to make materia to make our characters stronger. Uh huh. That's not a MMORPG.

I would go into far more detail for each of your points, as I have done so before in this thread for another person. But your arguments are so asinine that they aren't worth my time objecting to. I'm sorry if that comes off as insulting, and I'm even more sorry if you don't care.

Powerleveling is so blatantly, ridiculously, massively, stupendously overpowered in this game right now. It's like... Staring at the sun and saying it's dark out. Well damn, guess you went and made yourself blind.

I love this game, they have made so many positive changes. But powerleveling to this gross extent does not belong in ANY MMORPG. A game, if you can even call it that, that starts you out with a level 50 and gear of your choosing to run around a circular room with doors to raids would, at best, be called an adventure/strategy game. Let me repeat: NOT MMORPG.

If SE wants to change the genre this game is classed in, they can feel free. But I really don't think they want to do that, so we'll fight for the fix to this as hard as we can.

Edit;
Removed: "Get it through your thick skull." Bit too offensive, regret saying it.

[Crica]

Right, because materia itself is the only thing we want in character progression. And the only purpose for gear from lv1-49 is to make materia to make our characters stronger.

Players who choose to not PL have a use for all levels of gear.

I already stated that in my post.

Powerleveling to this gross extent does not belong in ANY MMORPG.

So change the "label" to something else, problem solved.

I don't enjoy or not enjoy a game based on what it's "labeled" as... I enjoy a game because it includes the options I enjoy.

So does everyone else.

If you do not enjoy the options the game has to offer, stop playing it or ask for the options you enjoy to be added.

However, the option you enjoy is already in FFXIV - you enjoy leveling slow, right? The option to level slow is already in FXIV, is it not?

[Issac]

Players who choose to not PL have a use for all levels of gear.

I already stated that in my post.

You would have made a nice point, however it is nullified by the simple facts of human nature. Please don't make me explain this, as it has been covered at least ten times in this thread.

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However, the option you enjoy is already in FFXIV - you enjoy leveling slow, right? The option to level slow is already in FXIV, is it not?

See above.
Oooh, afterthought. See below, too. This is just one of the many ways people have said the exact same thing.

You throw a exploitable mechanic in a MMO, and expect players will not exploit it.
Welcome to wonderland.

[Pence]

I didn't say I didn't like it, and as I clearly pointed out, the ones playing it are those that stuck with it from the beginning, ala me

I've not played it from the begining (End of .17) and I'm liking it since .19...why can't other people?

Personally I keep giving it a chance, as I just love the Final Fantasy worlds

Reason #1 this game still has a chance. It's the brand. You give it a chance because it's a FF. So will others.

[Crica]

You would have made a nice point, however it is nullified by the simple facts of human nature.

You are going to tell me you will choose the option to PL because the option to PL is faster then the option to not PL, not because you enjoy it?

You are going to tell me the fact that you choose to do something you do not enjoy is now somehow the fault of one option being faster then another option?