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    Quote Originally Posted by Fouluryu View Post
    This thread was only created by two reasons. Either wasn't invited to experience the advantage of exp chaining or feels the need to express getting Lv 50 is some sort of relic sign on FFXIV.

    It's not an exploit because the system is working as intended. When having a low level player in a high level players in a party it will mean that the first kill will be high exp for the low rank and low exp for the high level party. When chaining, both high/low players are rewarded with a set of amount of exp appropriate for the level. Example: 900 for a R20 and 560-680 to a R45 player.

    People feel the need to complain to make the game a competition.
    Or perhaps it's a legitimate concern. It's not a concern for you, so you can dismiss it as such. Not a very good argument, but, unfortunately, a popular one. Leveling should mean something. I don't play MMO's to be at the level cap and participating in endgame within a week. The best developers in the world can't churn out enough content to sustain something like that.

    The journey should be just as interesting as the end goal. That journey is completely marginalized by a system like this. Another term for it would be a sense of progression. Either way, I don't think it's good design to allow players to get to 50 in less than a week. As much as this community hates World of Warcraft, the leveling in this game just became easier and more pointless than WoW.

    We'll have to see what the developers think of it, but I can't imagine they're okay with people racing to endgame only to have very few activities to participate in. How exactly will that help SE's cause?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blarp View Post
    Or perhaps it's a legitimate concern. It's not a concern for you, so you can dismiss it as such. Not a very good argument, but, unfortunately, a popular one. Leveling should mean something. I don't play MMO's to be at the level cap and participating in endgame within a week. The best developers in the world can't churn out enough content to sustain something like that.

    The journey should be just as interesting as the end goal. That journey is completely marginalized by a system like this. Another term for it would be a sense of progression. Either way, I don't think it's good design to allow players to get to 50 in less than a week. As much as this community hates World of Warcraft, the leveling in this game just became easier and more pointless than WoW.

    We'll have to see what the developers think of it, but I can't imagine they're okay with people racing to endgame only to have very few activities to participate in. How exactly will that help SE's cause?
    Help SE's cause? Do you realize the mistakes they've made along the lines of the gaming industry? And I'm not talking about FFXIV. Companies makes mistakes and it's a life lesson to learning from them. They're not poor, they're a successful company.

    Anyways, I took Pug legit to 50 and helped the party getting them to 50. There's nothing wrong from the party or friends even to return the favor to help the lower players level up. Time is still required to level up and then it eventually slows down near 50. I know this may seem a different example but there are several players who got level 50 on every DOW/M (not SP exploit) in two months. That's not normal and it's questionable. But that's just me expressing my skepticism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fouluryu View Post
    I know this may seem a different example but there are several players who got level 50 on every DOW/M (not SP exploit) in two months.
    Yeah, bullsh*t. It took the very first person over 7 months to get everything to 50: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...0-on-all-jobss

    And even after that everyone thought it was a bot.

    I'd like to see your examples of people who did it in 2 months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fouluryu View Post
    Don't feel like looking it up. You look it up.
    No, cause you're full of crap lol. Prior to this patch it would have been impossible.

    And even if you weren't full of crap, it's not my job to prove your stupid claims. You made them, you prove them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travesty View Post
    No, cause you're full of crap lol. Prior to this patch it would have been impossible.

    And even if you weren't full of crap, it's not my job to prove your stupid claims. You made them, you prove them.
    Nice made up false quote. I never said that, but whatever pleases your fantasy argument. Seriously, how many alt accounts are you going to use to like your created post?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fouluryu View Post
    Nice made up false quote. I never said that, but whatever pleases your fantasy argument. Seriously, how many alt accounts are you going to use to like your created post?
    So you think editing your post to say "Grumble..." will make people think you didn't say what I quoted? Wooooow. Like that's never been done on a forum before lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fouluryu View Post
    Nice made up false quote. I never said that, but whatever pleases your fantasy argument. Seriously, how many alt accounts are you going to use to like your created post?
    Are you fricking serious? Are you 12? Man up, bud. There's nothing more cowardly than not being able to represent your own words.

    You just destroyed any possible credibility you could have ever had. Nice try, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fouluryu View Post
    Help SE's cause? Do you realize the mistakes they've made along the lines of the gaming industry? And I'm not talking about FFXIV. Companies makes mistakes and it's a life lesson to learning from them. They're not poor, they're a successful company.
    What does that have to do with the topic being discussed? SE needs to slow people down right now, not give them the keys to the F1 car. The fact is that there is not much to do in this game once you hit 50. When leveling is so fast, the expectation is that there's tons of content to participate in once you get there. What do you think will happen when people get there and find there's not much to do at all? All it's going to do is burn players out and have them looking for another game to play.

    Anyways, I took Pug legit to 50 and helped the party getting them to 50. There's nothing wrong from the party or friends even to return the favor to help the lower players level up. Time is still required to level up and then it eventually slows down near 50. I know this may seem a different example but there are several players who got level 50 on every DOW/M (not SP exploit) in two months. That's not normal and it's questionable. But that's just me expressing my skepticism.
    I think people playing and helping one another is great, but not when it creates an incredibly top heavy game before the game has even gotten off of the ground.
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