Power-leveling is absolutely BROKEN

[Bahn]

The exp is pretty horrid unless you have someone helping you out. Making it so higher level friends can't help you isn't the way to fix the game.

Had someone at level cap helping us do leves went by pretty fast we got a lot of exp. got about 30k exp in 30 min. He had to go so my friend and I did 1 leve without him and it took about 20 mins for 2k exp. So yea exp sucks with a small group and lower level people do not want really slow grindy exp.

Have you even played FFXI in abyssea where you can pay someone gil go afk for like 6 hours and come back and be level capped.

Having a high level person help you out is no different then FFXI exping you in abyssea. Only its still slower in FFXIV.

You see, the scenario you stated here is what Yoshida originally envisioned. Someone just helping you out while you and your friend tried to pull your weight. A friendly helping hand, which is IMO not a problem. The issue with the system now however is a rank 50 helping a rank 1 get to 30-40 without the rank 1 doing a single thing.

So yeah, I don't know how Yoshida will find a way to find a balance between the extreme we have now and the pre 1.19 extreme of restricted levels and single claims.

Also, don't worry, Yoshida stated in another post that guildleve difficulty is going to be lessened to be a bit more doable for the effort you put into it. As many others have pointed out, when in doubt, lower the difficulty so that the mob levels are below you and your friends' level so you can complete it more quickly.

[Aerycat]

Scenario 1 :-
Player A : Ahh I've finally reached Level 50!!! It was hell doing all those repetitive killing mobs and leves and stuff, it wasn't really enjoyable ride, but at least I reached Level 50!!!! YESSSSSS

Player B : Big deal, I got 3 level 50s in 2 weeks, in another 2 weeks I am to reach 50 for another 3 more etc...

Player A : . . . . . .
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Scenario 2 :-
Before 1.19
LS Chat Player A: Ding Level 50!!!
LS Chat Player B: Gratz!!!!!
LS Chat Player C: Nice, gratz.

After 1.19
LS Chat Player A: Ding Level 50!!!!!
LS Chat Player B: .....
LS Chat Player C: AFK feeding baby

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Scenario 3 :-
LS Chat :-
Player A: I hate powerlevelling!!! they're against my principle!!! I will level 25-50 by proper means!!
Player B: Then don't do it, it's your choice, it won't affect you in anyway if others are power levelling, it's their choice as well....
Player C: Hey B!!! I can't wait to join Hyper Ifrit, lets get that done....
Player B: Cool, guess we'll leave Player A alone, can't wait 2 months for him to level... or we'll get someone from other LS...
Player A: ( Really ? Do I have a choice ? Is it really not affecting me in anyway to follow what I think is right ? Nah, they're all crap ) Guys, I'm sorry....... can I get a PL please ????

[Issac]

Scenario 1 :-
Player A : Ahh I've finally reached Level 50!!! It was hell doing all those repetitive killing mobs and leves and stuff, it wasn't really enjoyable ride, but at least I reached Level 50!!!! YESSSSSS

Player B : Big deal, I got 3 level 50s in 2 weeks, in another 2 weeks I am to reach 50 for another 3 more etc...

Player A : . . . . . .
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Scenario 2 :-
Before 1.19
LS Chat Player A: Ding Level 50!!!
LS Chat Player B: Gratz!!!!!
LS Chat Player C: Nice, gratz.

After 1.19
LS Chat Player A: Ding Level 50!!!!!
LS Chat Player B: .....
LS Chat Player C: AFK feeding baby

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Scenario 3 :-
LS Chat :-
Player A: I hate powerlevelling!!! they're against my principle!!! I will level 25-50 by proper means!!
Player B: Then don't do it, it's your choice, it won't affect you in anyway if others are power levelling, it's their choice as well....
Player C: Hey B!!! I can't wait to join Hyper Ifrit, lets get that done....
Player B: Cool, guess we'll leave Player A alone, can't wait 2 months for him to level... or we'll get someone from other LS...
Player A: ( Really ? Do I have a choice ? Is it really not affecting me in anyway to follow what I think is right ? Nah, they're all crap ) Guys, I'm sorry....... can I get a PL please ????

Plain english, folks. Yes, this does happen. And will happen.

[ViolentDjango]

Plain english, folks. Yes, this does happen. And will happen.

Dare I even attempt to tackle how stupid this is...?

Pre-level cap increase past 75 in FFXI -- EVERYONE was exactly the same way about people hitting 75. Half of the people in a linkshell would congratulate them, the other half would go "Lol, no do the other 19 jobs, like I did." Hell, people with all level 50s already treat people like that in FFXIV EVEN BEFORE 1.19 CAME OUT.

People are dicks. Just because it takes you longer to level up won't change that people who hit level cap -- regardless of how long it takes -- will care less and less about whatever other people are doing...

I... ugh... This is blowing my mind.

You know what, have fun -- I'm tired of trying rationalize how people can be this ridiculous about something so trivial.

[Vahzl]

What amuses me more and more as these threads go on, is the amount of people who must be coming to these forums with no idea about this current power levelling option, and then going "Oh wow, gonna jump on that train before it leaves the station forever".

It is only helping to increase the amount of people doing it, but not much you can do about that now.

CHOO CHOO!

[Rinsui]

What amuses me more and more as these threads go on, is the amount of people who must be coming to these forums with no idea about this current power levelling option, and then going "Oh wow, gonna jump on that train before it leaves the station forever".

It is only helping to increase the amount of people doing it, but not much you can do about that now.

Unlikely. They'd have to be completely blind not to realize what's happening in some of the camps and dungeons.

[Vahzl]

Unlikely. They'd have to be completely blind not to realize what's happening in some of the camps and dungeons.

Or... not at all concerned with what other people are doing, as it really doesn't concern them!

And zing! Back to square one of the discussion again!

[Betelgeuzah]

Or... not at all concerned with what other people are doing, as it really doesn't concern them!

What the society you belong to is doing should be relevant to you as an individual. Unless you specifically choose to reject it.

And even if you don't notice it, subconciously it has an effect on you. The environment, along with your genes, shape you up into what you are.

[Vahzl]

What the society you belong to is doing should be relevant to you as an individual. Unless you specifically choose to reject it.

And even if you don't notice it, subconciously it has an effect on you. The environment, along with your genes, shape you up into what you are.

This is FFXIV, not the final words of Socrates.

[Alkaiser]

I am glad they have sad something at the very least.

A ton of people are still unfortunately abusing the hell out of this until its fixed, hell a lot more people got into it now after they "heard" it was going to get fixed so they are power rushing even more than before.

I seriously can't understand how people can whine about this getting removed and saying leveling was too hard before. Are they serious? have they played a mmorpg before this one?