Power-leveling is absolutely BROKEN

[Issac]

guys, it's being adjusted SE style, why is this still being discussed?

Because we don't know for sure what the adjustments will be.

[Bahn]

guys, it's being adjusted SE style, why is this still being discussed?

But SE style usually means using one extreme to fix another, soooo...

[Esk]

SE will over do it, then you can all moan its taking to long to level again..

Look its over cooked fair enough..
Not Everyone likes killing mobs over and over again without some actual content..
Let them get on with it till the patch you do what you enjoy..

All they need to do is put a penalty on for a player X ranks above claiming to say from 5% at 9 ranks above to 90% penalty at 20/5ranks above?
An make it so players ahve to do an action against a mob to get Exp. (one mob not all in the chain)

It wont stop power levelling in some ways, but it will def stop the afk to a large degree, and still let people help each other out. (and PL slower but still affective for those who hate mob grinding tedium)

[Issac]

SE will over do it, then you can all moan its taking to long to level again..

Look its over cooked fair enough..
Not Everyone likes killing mobs over and over again without some actual content..
Let them get on with it till the patch you do what you enjoy..

All they need to do is put a penalty on for a player X ranks above claiming to say from 5% at 9 ranks above to 90% penalty at 20/5ranks above?
An make it so players ahve to do an action against a mob to get Exp. (one mob not all in the chain)

It wont stop power levelling in some ways, but it will def stop the afk to a large degree, and still let people help each other out. (and PL slower but still affective for those who hate mob grinding tedium)

Make it so the PLVL being in the party significantly cuts EXP to a point where it's not worth it.
If helping outside the party, remove the chain/link bonus.

It would still be possible to help your friend, but it would take more effort than starting an actual party but less effort than soloing. I think that is a happy compromise.

Edit;
Scratch that. Just ditch the link/exp bonus when someone is >9 (or >5) ranks higher than you. It would still achieve the above goal.

[Esk]

Make it so the PLVL being in the party significantly cuts EXP to a point where it's not worth it.
If helping outside the party, remove the chain/link bonus.

It would still be possible to help your friend, but it would take more effort than starting an actual party but less effort than soloing. I think that is a happy compromise.

Edit;
Scratch that. Just ditch the link/exp bonus when someone is >9 (or >5) ranks higher than you. It would still achieve the above goal.

Migrating penalty works better, A Fix'd level forces people to work within a set limit,
> Oh i was playing last night and im 10levels up now.. so i can play with so-an-so
> Oh bugger i lv'd up last night, Exp will be cut till you lv as well.

[Zenaku]

SE will over do it, then you can all moan its taking to long to level again..

Look its over cooked fair enough..
Not Everyone likes killing mobs over and over again without some actual content..
Let them get on with it till the patch you do what you enjoy..

All they need to do is put a penalty on for a player X ranks above claiming to say from 5% at 9 ranks above to 90% penalty at 20/5ranks above?
An make it so players ahve to do an action against a mob to get Exp. (one mob not all in the chain)

It wont stop power levelling in some ways, but it will def stop the afk to a large degree, and still let people help each other out. (and PL slower but still affective for those who hate mob grinding tedium)

If it take a person 2-3month to get 1-50 then it good enough that what he want to start with.

[zaviermhigo]

Yoshi-P said a casual player should get to 50 at 2-3 months. But in no way put a limit on how fast those hardcore players should level up. I don't think pl'ing is an issue of how fast people level up at all, I mean sure its a problem, but think about this there's like 5 things of content to do at that level, those people who got pl'd to 50 are basically going to quit. I personally know people right now that were pl'd 1-40, then still tried to multi-box the rest. That person will never be a legit player, I don't even know why they rush levels to play content they can't play because they're EFFING DUMB AS SH!$, true story. The person I knew who pl'd there character had no clue they should do leves or that was a leveling method. They didn't know what guildmarks were. Like seriously who wants to play with a level 50 conj that doesn't have fast cast and some defense while casting and maybe transcendence, and thm's too think about it. I don't play melée so I wouldn't know what makes you gimp there, but I'm sure you their just as gimped.

I don't believe that pl'ing is hurting the game, but what I do believe is that its hurting the community. You could say the game is affected by the community, and yes that's true, but that's a 2nd causal link you have to make after the pling issue. No one reallys like pl'ing unless their doing it. So we just need to tell the devs "we don't like pling, on a personal level it makes us sick to play with people who have been pl'd they are _____ and the practice is ______" instead people are like "oh pl'ing effects this and that and this and those and these" and no it really doesn't. We just don't like it, and that is it. There is nothing wrong with not liking it, we should just stop covering it up with logical fallacies.

[zaviermhigo]

The main problem here is the pl'd people never want to stop being pl'd and they instead become more greedy and more people say "eff it, i'll just pl some levels too" and then they'll blame it on being "casual". Its sad to think that those of us given the opportunity to pl levels didn't are few, but then again, I don't know if I count, I have a 50thm, and a 34 conj i want to level up, but I'm not pling it cause I need guildmarks for it and I don't want to be gimp that way. There I guess either needs to be a change in how ranking between mob and pc is calculated, or they need to make grinding the hard way attractive for people. Or just eff those spammer people and make game ridick hard. Idk i want last one :/

[Arlekiel]

This thread has a dev response... but I refuse to go over 99 pages of post... can someone please be kind enough to point me towards the rigth direction and find the dev response in this post o.o!

tyvm

[Vestara_Khai]

This thread has a dev response... but I refuse to go over 99 pages of post... can someone please be kind enough to point me towards the rigth direction and find the dev response in this post o.o!

tyvm

Here you go
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post385454