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    P.S.:

    A quick and simple 3-step question:

    Wasn't EXP originally designed as an abstract measure of the experience your adventuring character had accumulated during his career? So what are powerleveled characters awarded "experience" points for? Because they get more proficient at auto-following?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinsui View Post
    P.S.:

    A quick and simple 3-step question:

    Wasn't EXP originally designed as an abstract measure of the experience your adventuring character had accumulated during his career? So what are powerleveled characters awarded "experience" points for? Because they get more proficient at auto-following?
    THIS. The whole nature of this argument should almost be invalidated just by the name of what you're earning. EXPERIENCE points, not Higher Level Player Observer Points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travesty View Post
    THIS. The whole nature of this argument should almost be invalidated just by the name of what you're earning. EXPERIENCE points, not Higher Level Player Observer Points.
    You can be as facetious and pedantic about the word as you want, but the matter still stands that those who can, will, and those who cry, will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahzl View Post
    You can be as facetious and pedantic about the word as you want, but the matter still stands that those who can, will, and those who cry, will.
    While I was living in Indiana for a year, my stepmother would use the word "facetious" a hell of a lot. And usually, she would excuse herself as, "not being facetious or anything, but," before saying what she will next. I think she used it as a genuine attempt to let you know that what she was about to say wasn't intended to insult you or make light of you at your expense.

    Now, in what Travesty has said, I don't think he was trying to be facetious. Nor do I think he was at all.

    Facetious
    1
    : joking or jesting often inappropriately : waggish <just being facetious>
    2
    : meant to be humorous or funny : not serious <a facetious remark>
    The ONLY reason I'm bringing up the word is because you seem to like to use it. Also, I'm defending Travesty to an end.
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    Belle Rose
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    I agrre with the OP 100% If this doesn't change real soon, I'll quit this game for the last time.
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    Gnu Who
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    You just don't have to play anymore until 40+.

    Sit around sponging EXP until it's your turn to PL the group.

    That's not even a game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smashington View Post
    You just don't have to play anymore until 40+.

    Sit around sponging EXP until it's your turn to PL the group.

    That's not even a game.
    You don´t NEED to do anything in a game, it´s not a obligation. I ENJOY to play the game and I play normal way (soloing, gl, missions).

    Using powerlevel it´s like playing an offline game using a Trainer (little cheat programs that give you money, healthy, etc), you just rush your experience.

    I´m not playing that way and still enjoying the game, play the way you enjoy the game, since you can play it in multiple ways.
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    Last edited by Whax; 10-11-2011 at 08:57 AM.

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    Kailok Anarhin
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    I agree with OP in the idea that it's just too much. I don't think PLing is a big deal, but when you can get 18-36 on LNC in 6 hours without even being at the computer (I went to work) its just too much. I was excited at first, but then I saw my entire LS doing it every day since patch, and it dawned upon me that people are going to level EVERYTHING to 50 within a week, get bored because really the only thing worth doing right now is Ifrit, and once they beat Ifrit, what else is there to do with all of those 50's?

    I've been doing what I can to try and warn my LS of the outcomes of letting themselves PL/get PLed. This at face value is wonderful exp but in the long-run it will kill the game because people will get bored and have nothing left to do.

    I swear. People complained their faces off AGAINST a level-sync system and then this comes along and half the community loves it.

    *Didn't read the entire thread, 79 pages would have taken forever.*
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    Last edited by Kailok; 10-11-2011 at 03:51 AM.

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    Insulting people in the counter argument isn't going to change their minds. It will make them stick harder to their opinion regardless of whether or not it's right, and think less of your opinion simply because you insulted them. In essence, if you want to try and change someone's mind, come up with a well thought-out response and don't be a dick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kailok View Post
    I agree with OP in the idea that it's just too much. I don't think PLing is a big deal, but when you can get 18-36 on LNC in 6 hours without even being at the computer (I went to work) its just too much. I was excited at first, but then I saw my entire LS doing it every day since patch, and it dawned upon me that people are going to level EVERYTHING to 50 within a week, get bored because really the only thing worth doing right now is Ifrit, and once they beat Ifrit, what else is there to do with all of those 50's?

    I've been doing what I can to try and warn my LS of the outcomes of letting themselves PL/get PLed. This at face value is wonderful exp but in the long-run it will kill the game because people will get bored and have nothing left to do.

    I swear. People complained their faces off AGAINST a level-sync system and then this comes along and half the community loves it.

    *Didn't read the entire thread, 79 pages would have taken forever.*
    That sums up my opinion.
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    Raikki Zero
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    I think most people in support of it recognize that the PL ride pretty much ends at 40 (at least from what I've heard). Yeah you can get good EXP after that in spiritbond parties, but at that point you're starting to pull your weight and I wouldn't call it PL anymore. People can still let you AFK if they want but they could do that pre-patch also so there's nothing new to talk about here in that regard.
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