Power-leveling is absolutely BROKEN

[Nanaya]

Funny, I always thought the point of an MMORPG was the grind, the gradual climb to becoming stronger, until you just might become the best, or at the very least not suck at what you do. The difficulty is the real reward, I remember playing through Chains of Promathia before all the child's play uncapped, hand holding bullshit, and even though I raged hard at every Ultima/Omega wipe, and having to get level specific gear, you bet your ass I was overjoyed when it was over, and I overcame that hurdle with my static party. I don't feel that way with XIV, I was ambivalent at best with my first 50.

As things stand now, you don't even really need a modicum of skill or perseverance to reach the top. The game has been trivialized to:

1. push butan
2. receeve expz

That kind of instant gratification does not make a good RPG. As said copious amounts of times, most of us aren't against PLing, but can we at least have a system where the player and all his wonderful 47 chromosomes getting power leveled has to actually put in even a tiny fragment of effort? Even in normal parties now, Square is just making it rain with exp, it's like making a 3 yard touchdown, and having a huge endzone celebration, ridiculous.

[Fiosha_Maureiba]

People shouldn't hang on to every word Yoshi-P says. SE has had to retract some of their features and statements.

And until we have a post 1.19 response, we can post all we like about what was said in a translation or a producer letter.

@Travesty, I don't think we'll be able to convince the other party what you and I see. If it's not affecting them negatively or they do not acknowledge that it is affecting them, it is unlikely they will change their stance.

edit: Wow things have changed since I started typing this.

[RemVye]

Travesty I would like you to create a level 1 character / class and have someone PL you to 50 and you tell us how long it takes.

[Mindx3]

As much as i accept the idea of PLeveling, i think it still should take some time, although i also accept 1-50 in a couple of days / hours. Im not sure if lvling as fast as people have been reporting is working as intended or not as it does seem rather quickly. How about making plvl only possible on characters that have had a class reach cap. I do remember yoshi-p saying that if the claiming system does completely break the game then they will change it. But after reading this thread it seems that the claiming system isnt the issue since lvl 50 actually join your party. Plvling in this manner is rather stupid because the 50 can initiate the 1st attack thus getting hate and being able to kill any lvl mob for the rest of the party. Instead of having the lower level player tag 1st and having the 50 kill it afterwards out of the party.

How are the 2 methods different? In the 2nd method the low lvl player takes a risk of tagging higher lvl mobs that can 1-2 shot him if the plvl doesnt respond fast enough.

But both methods shouldent be a problem if a cap is in place, i my self have not tested plvl yet. Can somone tell me if there is a difference in xp for both methods?

[RemVye]

As much as i accept the idea of PLeveling, i think it still should take some time, although i also accept 1-50 in a couple of days / hours. Im not sure if lvling as fast as people have been reporting is working as intended or not as it does seem rather quickly. How about making plvl only possible on characters that have had a class reach cap. I do remember yoshi-p saying that if the claiming system does completely break the game then they will change it. But after reading this thread it seems that the claiming system isnt the issue since lvl 50 actually join your party. Plvling in this manner is rather stupid because the 50 can initiate the 1st attack thus getting hate and being able to kill any lvl mob for the rest of the party. Instead of having the lower level player tag 1st and having the 50 kill it afterwards.

How are the 2 methods different? In the 2nd method the low lvl player takes a risk of tagging higher lvl mobs that can 1-2 shot him if the plvl doesnt respond fast enough.

But both methods shouldent be a problem if a cap is in place, i my self have not tested plvl yet. Can somone tell me if there is a difference in xp for both methods?

Unless I'm misunderstanding you there is no true difference. If a level 1 attacks something first, then a 50 comes to own it.. the 50 is still going to grab hate. The only problem I guess would be that if its a level 1 vs. a level 39 mob then the level 1 is going to get steam rolled in one shot. However there are methods around this as well (pull with ranged item + stoneskin, and the 50 taunts.. etc.). I guess having the level 1 hit the mob would also prevent him from going AFK /follow the r50 who is owning everything.

The game has been out for a year, who cares if people get to max level in a week or 3 days, 2 days. There is still 7 classes in the game. They would have to invest time to do the storyline, class quests, GC quests, gear up, farm money, etc... it's not like they are going to come in and hit R50 and being at the same "level" as you in a day.

[Mindx3]

Im sorry i ninja edit my post, 2nd method the plvl is not within the party, and i agree with everything u said

[Kiote]

I can't believe people are actually defending this System Exploit. Why would you play a game that no longer requires you to do anything? Do you honestly feel like you accomplished something when you get PLed 6 levels in an hour?

I am ashamed to admit that WoW is no longer the easiest MMO on the market. FFXIV has taken the Crown and assassinated the other contestants. This isn't even a game any more.

Someone made the point that it has become push button receive xp, but sadly enough you don't even have to push the button after this patch.

[Neptune]

I can't believe people are actually defending this System Exploit. ...
Someone made the point that it has become push button receive xp, but sadly enough you don't even have to push the button after this patch.

I logged in and I was already rank 50.

[DNO]

I logged in and I was already rank 50.

LMAO!!!!!!!!

[ViolentDjango]

LMAO!!!!!!!!

Its funny that people don't appreciate that a massive amount of the game's community is already at level cap and yet people still get one... there's plenty more to do in the game than just level...