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  1. #1431
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krausus View Post
    why does it matter to you so much? If the person doing the PLing wants to do it then so be it. It has zero effect on you. Some people dont do it just to have a high level character some people might do it just to get a certain skill. Either way it has no effect on you other then going against some semblance of moral judgement you think should be forced on others.

    Not everyone is going to have the same beliefs as you and if history has taught us anything non tolerance never leads to anything good.
    But it does affect every single player on the server.
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  2. #1432
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soukyuu View Post
    That's not really an issue. The issue is the amount of EXP gained via afk PL.
    As far as I have experienced, a good experience party allows to earn as much experience per hour as power leveling. I found power leveling useful only when no parties were available at my level, but that will be solved in a few hours with 1.20. I don't see why the amount of experience is an issue as it is similar to a good experience party.

    Quote Originally Posted by Soukyuu View Post
    If you go afk for a few minutes in a party, that's fine, but if you just leave your character online for a day leeching, then why are you playing the game in the first place?
    Not everyone enjoy the grind of getting classes from level 1 to 50. I'll take myself as an example, I did level my archer from 1 to 50 without the use of any power level whatsoever. However, there were plenty of time when that become a chore more than an entertainment. During those times, having a power level to help me get through my slope would have been wonderful. Now that I experienced what is the grind from level 1 to 50, I don't see why I should still deny some power level from time to time to get me out of the slopes with my other classes when I either don't have time or don't like the part I'm in.
    While some other players dislike the grind altogether and would rather be level 50 from the start and experience the game their own way. If that's what they like and someone is ready to sacrifice his/her own time to allow that person to skip the grind, so be it. What is better, having that person power level to 50 and enjoy the game, or not an have it not play FFXIV at all?

    Yes, I understand the problem of abuse that some players do with power level. However, I believe the true abuse is restricted to only a few players (both giving excessive power level and receiving power level). Yes, the developers should keep an eye on it, but not to the point of saying power level is broken.
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    LOL cash shop! SE's way to tell their player how they appreciate them... pull the carrot and empty your pockets $$$
    And to those who support it: you are kicking yourselves. -- We just need to sit back and laugh at people with cash shop items.
    (Marvelous economics IQ test!)

  3. #1433
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdvancedWind View Post
    But it does affect every single player on the server.
    Explain exactly how it affects every single player on the server. Because, quite honestly, I haven't been affected at all by other people doing power level.
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    LOL cash shop! SE's way to tell their player how they appreciate them... pull the carrot and empty your pockets $$$
    And to those who support it: you are kicking yourselves. -- We just need to sit back and laugh at people with cash shop items.
    (Marvelous economics IQ test!)

  4. #1434
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nakiamiie View Post
    Explain exactly how it affects every single player on the server. Because, quite honestly, I haven't been affected at all by other people doing power level.
    [SIZE="7"]Read the rest of the thread. K thanks.[/SIZE]
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  5. #1435
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Nakiamiie View Post
    Explain exactly how it affects every single player on the server. Because, quite honestly, I haven't been affected at all by other people doing power level.
    [SIZE="7"]Read the rest of the thread. K thanks.[/SIZE]
    Or even the updated original post, yeesh. It reviews a good chunk of it.
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    Please fix this oust / invite / oust / invite flawed game mechanic exping. I dont care that you mind - I dont like this.

    OT http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ease-important
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    Read the rest of the thread. K thanks.
    Actually, this thread has proven that it doesn't prevent anyone from leveling as slowly as they would like to, despite claims to the contrary. If you didn't pick that up, then you obviously haven't read all 144 pages (like I have ).

    What this thread is really about is certain people demanding to impose their style of play on others, in spite of being able to play their way already. It's not enough for them to enjoy themselves; they insist on making other people suffer.
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    (original by GalvatronZero)

  8. #1438
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    You obviously haven't read the entire thread dude.. or atleast the last 4 pages if you really feel that it doesn't effect anyone.

    Go back and read, think about it, then come back and post.
    No I just dont agree with it
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    [SIZE="7"]Arguing opinion as fact & using large text makes me superior. K thanks.[/SIZE]
    ^ Fixed for grammatical errors & typos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    Read the rest of the thread. K thanks.
    No one has yet to give a reason.

    Some common reasons people in this thread are against PLing.

    "PLd players don't know how to play their job."

    As of 1.20, no one will know how to play their class. We're all starting off like PLd characters tonight.

    "They'll get bored and leave if they get all classes to cap too quick."

    Then all those folks with multiple 50s better show SE that's true and leave otherwise you're evidence to the contrary.

    "What's the point of low level content if you can get to cap so quick"

    What low level content? Oh, you mean that handful of quests and two dungeons they added after we spent a year with nothing to do but grind?

    It's been said a dozen times, but I'll say it again.

    SE is between a rock and a hard place. They have to use what few resources they can to keep those already at cap occupied without alienating those looking to start the game.

    XIV doesn't have the luxury of being a run-of-the-mill MMO.

    That said, oust and kill needs to be fixed. But PLing as intended is fine.
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