Power-leveling is absolutely BROKEN

[Theplatter]

Wow, pretty sad that this is still on the front page. Can we just rename this "The Haters' Thread"? Bad enough that we had an emergency patch to get this "fixed" because some level 30's were butthurt that they actually had a means to escape the boring and tedious grind (or at least speed it up), and people are still pissing and moaning about it? If you want to hold onto that long, boring and tedious feeling, just grind a craft instead.

[darkstarpoet1]

Congratulations, you're still an idiot.


forget this, if you people are idiots Its not my issue, I give up, let this post get deleted and I banned for another week for calling you all idiots, I'm not coming back to this crapshoot of idiocy and closed-minded retardation.

good. this is the best news i have heard yet. you would know exactly what it is since you are the vocal leader of that group. the best news this board could hear is that you are leaving.

Wow, pretty sad that this is still on the front page. Can we just rename this "The Haters' Thread"? Bad enough that we had an emergency patch to get this "fixed" because some level 30's were butthurt that they actually had a means to escape the boring and tedious grind (or at least speed it up), and people are still pissing and moaning about it? If you want to hold onto that long, boring and tedious feeling, just grind a craft instead.

nobody is saying that power leveling needs to be removed. what part of that can you not understand?

people are saying that the sp for power leveling should be in line with the sp for grind parties. if they both got massive sp then so be it, but only one gets massive sp and the other gets less than 20%. if both groups are 8 people fighting mobs there's no reason one group of r40 characters get 5x the amount of sp that another group of r40's get. they need to balance it to where both groups get comparable sp.

we could also name it the crybaby thread because people feel threatened because they are afraid their gravy train of sp may be put in line with the groups that are actually fighting mobs so they cry about it.

[Theplatter]

good. this is the best news i have heard yet. you would know exactly what it is since you are the vocal leader of that group. the best news this board could hear is that you are leaving.



nobody is saying that power leveling needs to be removed. what part of that can you not understand?

people are saying that the sp for power leveling should be in line with the sp for grind parties. if they both got massive sp then so be it, but only one gets massive sp and the other gets less than 20%. if both groups are 8 people fighting mobs there's no reason one group of r40 characters get 5x the amount of sp that another group of r40's get. they need to balance it to where both groups get comparable sp.

we could also name it the crybaby thread because people feel threatened because they are afraid their gravy train of sp may be put in line with the groups that are actually fighting mobs so they cry about it.

Um, I was only commenting on how it's a wonder that this thread is still going, despite the fact that there was already an emergency maintenance to get it adjusted. Glad you feel so proud that you had the patience to grind through all of your jobs; apparently that's fun to you. For me, fun was beating the Darkhold with friends, or killing Ifrit, both of which required levels 45+. And fyi, I did in fact grind through most of classes (with the exception of pug and gla because they were not enjoyable classes to me), so no, I don't feel threatened that people like you are getting an e-peen by doing the same repeated motions for months on end to reach the same goal. Maybe you should stop being threatened by people who would like to speed up the grind and enjoy some endgame content.

[Kamarile]

Um, I was only commenting on how it's a wonder that this thread is still going, despite the fact that there was already an emergency maintenance to get it adjusted. Glad you feel so proud that you had the patience to grind through all of your jobs; apparently that's fun to you. For me, fun was beating the Darkhold with friends, or killing Ifrit, both of which required levels 45+. And fyi, I did in fact grind through most of classes (with the exception of pug and gla because they were not enjoyable classes to me), so no, I don't feel threatened that people like you are getting an e-peen by doing the same repeated motions for months on end to reach the same goal. Maybe you should stop being threatened by people who would like to speed up the grind and enjoy some endgame content.

What endgame content :P ?

[DeadRiser]

Um, I was only commenting on how it's a wonder that this thread is still going, despite the fact that there was already an emergency maintenance to get it adjusted. Glad you feel so proud that you had the patience to grind through all of your jobs; apparently that's fun to you. For me, fun was beating the Darkhold with friends, or killing Ifrit, both of which required levels 45+. And fyi, I did in fact grind through most of classes (with the exception of pug and gla because they were not enjoyable classes to me), so no, I don't feel threatened that people like you are getting an e-peen by doing the same repeated motions for months on end to reach the same goal. Maybe you should stop being threatened by people who would like to speed up the grind and enjoy some endgame content.

Not everything should be about the end. There's this big thing called the middle.

MMO's are kind of like a hamburger. The end and the beginning are the little parts. The big part is the middle with all the condiments and the most part, which is where this game keeps you occupied for so long. Well what XIV is basically doing is getting rid of the middle part of that hamburger. So all we have now is the bread. The ends that can only keep you occupied for so long until you just leave it as it is, and come back for the next patch.

[Theplatter]

Not everything should be about the end. There's this big thing called the middle.

MMO's are kind of like a hamburger. The end and the beginning are the little parts. The big part is the middle with all the condiments and the most part, which is where this game keeps you occupied for so long. Well what XIV is basically doing is getting rid of the middle part of that hamburger. So all we have now is the bread. The ends that can only keep you occupied for so long until you just leave it as it is, and come back for the next patch.

Well, therein lies the problem; aside from the lvl 25 dungeon and Shposhae, there currently is nothing in the middle, at least nothing substantial enough to want to keep people there. By far the most interesting things occur at the current "endgame" (Ifrit, Darkhold, etc.). If they did introduce more midlevel content (and new classes to make the most of it), I'd be all for it. In fact, most of my favorite stuff in XI was midlevel. However, here in XIV the most fun I've found was at its "endgame", and for friends who don't have the proper classes leveled to gain the necessary abilities, they have the OPTION of being powerleveled so that they can take part in the current "endgame" events.

[Theplatter]

Funny, not once did I infer that you said that powerleveling should be removed. Looks like you're just putting words in my mouth or searching for something that isn't there.

So why be all kinds of worried and upset that powerleveling is the way it is when you already have everything to 50? If someone wants to be leveled up that quickly, how is that negatively affecting the game for you? You're not forced to do it, it's an OPTION! The major issue with this game is, whether grinding through the levels or being powerleveled, there's not going to be much of a call to know the job either way, until you take on the major events...i.e. those that are done outside of leveling up.

[darkstarpoet1]

Funny, not once did I infer that you said that powerleveling should be removed. Looks like you're just putting words in my mouth or searching for something that isn't there.

So why be all kinds of worried and upset that powerleveling is the way it is when you already have everything to 50? If someone wants to be leveled up that quickly, how is that negatively affecting the game for you? You're not forced to do it, it's an OPTION! The major issue with this game is, whether grinding through the levels or being powerleveled, there's not going to be much of a call to know the job either way, until you take on the major events...

do you think that just because this is my main that i am not playing a second char? how smart of you. it affects me when i am trying to level my other char in a grind party because i actually enjoy to fight mobs, but nobody will do them because they can get 10x the sp in a power level party.

i am left with 2 options. option 1 is to play solo. option 2 is to get power leveled with them to get ranks. i would like to find an actual grind party that allows people to fight the mobs, but the only groups are pl groups. the reason those groups are the only ones is directly because they can be lazy and do nothing and still get 10x more sp. tell me again how is that not effecting my game?

as i stated and people continue to overlook as long as party grind sp and power leveling sp are the same there is no issue. the issue is with the difference in sp so people feel forced to join a pl party if they want to get into a group.

[Theplatter]

Well, at that point it's a matter of opinion in regards to what's fun to you. In having one character with all 50's and the desire to level up a second character, you apparently like grinding out levels. Whereas with myself (and most of the people I've played with on my server), the battles outside of the grind are preferred and we don't have a problem if people are being powerleveled (the way it is) in order to take part in those battles. Many people who took a long break and have come back to the game with the leveling system as it is will admit it's crazy experience, but most enjoy it with very few complaining.

[Andrien]

with search function coming to you soon, finding/making parties your own level will be easier. level sync is coming soon too.

stay tuned for more details after these messages.