To all the flames on primal datacenter...

[TheWaywardWind]

Something.... something... three way battles.... something... something.... laughable conspiracy theories.

What really needs to stop is this thread >.>
Flames have also nonsensically sandwiched Maelstrom as recently as last night in multiple matches, even though we were typically in second behind adders, resulting in maelstrom versions of yourself claiming some intricate flame/adder conspiracy and earning the ire of the more logically thinking members of the alliances who would quickly tell em to stfu and stop looking for excuses for losses.

I usually do my best to help lead the Flames and don't normally make up excuses for losing, so you can save the condescending sanctimonious crap for some else, thanks.

However, while it is not something that may take place all the time, denying that there are instances where one of the GCs go "Eh, fuck it, screw this particular GC over for fun" is simply idiotic and wishful thinking.

[Chill_Ghost]

Which GC has the quickest queue times? I enjoy doing pvp but I work at night and sleep during the day except during my off days. That means I only have 2 days to actually play and I usually only have 3 hours of prime time to get in. I'm currently in Maelstrom and I have like 1 hour queues. I wouldn't care about being on the losing team since it feels like we are all pretty balanced. I just want to play more

[HylianBebop]

Which GC has the quickest queue times? I enjoy doing pvp but I work at night and sleep during the day except during my off days. That means I only have 2 days to actually play and I usually only have 3 hours of prime time to get in. I'm currently in Maelstrom and I have like 1 hour queues. I wouldn't care about being on the losing team since it feels like we are all pretty balanced. I just want to play more

Flames easily have the fastest queue time in the primal cluster. You will level up the fastest with them, too, if you want that pvp gear for glamour.

[Evya]

What exactly did Mael offer you to get you to help them win this much? Are Adders allowed to counteroffer? I'm seeing a very obvious pattern of every game that gets out of the flames reach they just bum rush adders spawn and ignore mael when they are up 300 points with three spawns. It's basically every game when flames are in last. I'm just curious how this win trading came about, and if we can maybe get you to be ours goons for a weekend or something. This is exactly why gc's need to be removed, and 1v1v1 was a bad idea from the start. 1v1v1 just turns into cutthroat 2v1 and im pretty tired of 2v1. I swear im going to start taping my matches in the hopes of actually seeing flames attack whoever is in the lead once.

It's not because of win trading. It's because we hate you.

[Februs]

I think the only real "fix" to this problem would be to come out with a 2-way game mode. I've found that a lot of this cross GC hate is just grudge cycling caused by 3-way fights. The game mode encourages it. Adders just gets the most of it because of their play style.

In a lot of the matches I've played, I've seen 2 GC's getting into an awesome fight, but just as one is about to start pushing to victory, the 3rd GC shows up and ruins everything. Mael will be fighting it out with Flames, it's getting heated, bodies are hitting the floor, one of the two of us is starting to buckle....and then.... Adders show up and get in the way somehow. Best comparison I can think of is being blue balled because your roommate walked in on you and your girlfriend. NOT COOL. Did you not see the sock on the door??

Adders probably generate the most resentment in this 3 way scenario because they tend to attack the 2nd place GC. Nothing creates hard feelings like kicking the team that's already down, but it's become expected of them because they do it so often. I had a match just last night in which Mael was leading, but without a single command, the entire Flames group moved on Adders because they were closer. When one person asked why we didn't attack Mael, around 10 people instantly responded with some variety of: "because Adders would have backcapped/attacked/sandwiched/pincered us." Normally I would not have sided with them, but Adders had already done it 3 times in that match alone. I got the impression that most of the team was frustrated because they wanted to attack Mael, but knew that they couldn't because of Adders.

It's not really anyone's fault. It's just the game mode. It seems to me that SE should just do away with the 3 way fights and create a 2 way game. That way, there's no hard feelings over getting rear-ended. People can be bitter because they lost, not because they got gang banged.

[Haze4dayz]

Only way to make it better is to /shout between matches in different zones. Encourage others to solo queue up and get involved. Such a small group of people playing over and over again its no wonder why you all are so salty with no fresh water.

[HylianBebop]

0-21 with Adders today. About 7-8 matches were 50 or less point losses. One 8v8v8 we were up by 200 and lost at the end. Worst I've ever seen adders, and I thought they were improving.

[TheWaywardWind]

0-21 with Adders today. About 7-8 matches were 50 or less point losses. One 8v8v8 we were up by 200 and lost at the end. Worst I've ever seen adders, and I thought they were improving.

I pity you guys. You were stellar in slaughter, but just can't seem to get your shit together in seize. I've never seen the Adders perform so badly.

[Februs]

0-21 with Adders today. About 7-8 matches were 50 or less point losses. One 8v8v8 we were up by 200 and lost at the end. Worst I've ever seen adders, and I thought they were improving.

Ouch. 21 matches is impressive. You have my sympathies...

At least you could play 21 matches. Even on Flames (which usually have pretty stellar que times) I don't think I could que for that many matches in one day. I gave up last night. Waiting for that timer started to get really bad... There are days I think I've broken the DF, I swear...

[Dimitrii]

0-21 with Adders today. About 7-8 matches were 50 or less point losses. One 8v8v8 we were up by 200 and lost at the end. Worst I've ever seen adders, and I thought they were improving.

At least your queues are fast enough to allow you to frontline as much in one day as alot of people on Maelstrom do in one week. I can't even imagine being able to get into 21 matches in a day as Maelstrom.