[To Devs] Transferring FC to upcoming EU datacenter

[Vantol]

Greetings,

Short backstory: at 1.0 launch Lindblum and one more server, which name I can't remember, were choosen by community as EU servers. Time passed and Lindblum became Sargatanas. More time passed and at 2.0 launch for some weird reason it wasn't among EU legacy servers. Many players lost their chars and moved to new EU servers but many decided to stay.

Here I represent questions of at least 800 players (half of them isn't very active, but many planning to return at 3.0 launch) who are going to move from Sargatanas to EU server, when more info about EU datacenter is released. Particular server will be choosen at FCs meeting later.

FC transfer

Will there be service to transfer whole FC? I mean there must be. Will I, as FC leader, have to pay for all members, since not of them are always online and it's hard to coordinate. For example, my FC has ~60 members, so it will cost me 1080$. Well, ok, but what about 300-400 members FCs? Will we be able to keep FC rank, points, name. What about FC chest and items/money?

FC house

Server 2nd large house, 200-something millions. Are we going to loose everything? If new wards are released, is it possible to lock them for a few days at least, so FCs looking to transfer can move their houses there first?

Gil cap

Our top crafter has around 700 millions, with current 1-mil-transfer cap he gonna shot himself. It will cost him 12600$ to create char, take 1 mil, transfer, delete, repeat (RMT service is much cheaper, mind you). Same goes for many other members.

FC airship

If answer to previous questions is "No, we want to see you suffer and cry", what about airships? If EU datacenter isn't released at 3.0 launch (which seems to be the case) and we spend more hundreds of millions and man-hours to build one, can we deattach it from FC, place it in inventory and transfer with it? Please, make at least this an option.

P.S.

Server roominess

Is there any info on EU servers roominess? Which of them will be able to take in 800 players? Cause we don't want to end in situation, where half of our FC members will be forced to stay on old server or transfer somewhere else.

Best regards and thank you.

[Natashio]

I'm going to guess that when those new EU servers are made, what will most likely happen is that they will just transfer the current data that on the current EU servers and move them over. Just a wild guess, don't quote me on this.

Now..for the transfers. Seeing that you are in Sargatanas, which is not an EU server, most likely the current transfer rules will apply. Meaning, you will lose the house, the gil limit will be 1 million/300 something gil per retainer. There is no free company transfers because you have to drop from the free company anyways before transferring. If there's already a free company that has the same name as yours, you will have to come up with a new name and start from rank 1.

[SongJoohee]

All servers based in Chaos will likely be transferred to the EU Datacenter.

Forcing all the EU players to transfer would be chaos, between lost FCs, lost housing plots, lost friends lists, transferring to different servers than your friends etc. Migrating the entire set of servers will be hard, but far less trouble than forcing the 100s of thousands of EU players to transfer.

But I just saw you're in Sargatanas. Well, that's your own fault. It's clearly listed that that is an NA Server. Perhaps if you're lucky people will be given free transfers, but I doubt it, since as I said earlier, the datacenter for Europe is clearly listed and Sargatanas is not in it.

PS. As far as I'm aware, paid-for server transfers do not have the same limitation as attempting to create new characters, so you should be able to transfer fine.

[Vantol]

Well, that's your own fault.

Well, that's completly SE's fault, because they made Sargatanas, which was EU during 1.0 version, into NA server when 2.0 launched for no reason. But it was irrelevant at that time - both EU and NA servers were in Canada and it was stated, that no other datacenters will be created. Now it is not the case. And I think SE should compensate it somehow.

[SongJoohee]

Well, that's completly SE's fault, because they made Sargatanas, which was EU during 1.0 version, into NA server when 2.0 launched for no reason. But it was irrelevant at that time - both EU and NA servers were in Canada and it was stated, that no other datacenters will be created. Now it is not the case. And I think SE should compensate it somehow.

It was announced 2 months before launch that Ragnarok would be the recommended server for Legacy players from Europe.

You were already given multiple chances to transfer to the EU Servers. You had a 4 week period in P3 of the beta - which waived all the current transfer restrictions, and then there was another week of free transfers in the October after launch to help friends get on the same servers.

[Naria]

Prior to ARR's launch SE posted on the Lodestone which legacy servers were going to go to which regions. At that time all 1.0 characters were offered free server transfers, with none of the current gil restrictions. So yes they already gave everyone an opportunity to change to an appropriate server for free, you choose to stay on a server that was being designated NA.

[Sigiria]

Well, that's completly SE's fault, because they made Sargatanas, which was EU during 1.0 version, into NA server when 2.0 launched for no reason. But it was irrelevant at that time - both EU and NA servers were in Canada and it was stated, that no other datacenters will be created. Now it is not the case. And I think SE should compensate it somehow.

Well, that's because EU community choose different servers by themselves, later in the V1 when SE merged the server they created the whole new "Ragnarok" server, the only one they branded "EU". Everyone had the choice to transfer onto that new server or remain on the server created from the old ones, knowing it would be a "NA" server to SE. I remember at the time, all the flame on the forum "Ragnarok will be a dead server with only EU players/ not being 2 old servers merged" Well it's not so shabby right now.
It's not strange because Sargatanas, unlike Ragnarok, was never seen as a EU server by SE.

[Gilthas]

To be fair: given that Sargatanas and the actual EU servers were all going to be hosted in Canada, there was no real reason for EU players to move to Ragnarok. Add to this the situation at launch where servers were packed, and you'll have plenty of EU players on NA servers and vice-versa.

The playerbase also had no reason to believe that an EU datacenter was going to come along.

Now that an actual EU datacenter will exist, they should offer free server transfers to both NA and EU players. Transferring Houses and such though? That's unrealistic.

[Taika]

I'm in the same situation of having an EU FC on NA server and possibly in interested moving to EU server when they'll actually be in EU. I would like SE to consider a system for moving a whole FC from a server to another (while of course leaving FC members the option to stay). In any case, server changes from EU accounts to the new actual EU data center should definitely be free (one time).

[Sasha]

At the most they could give free server transfers when the EU datacentre is ready, they could restrict it to only moving to an EU world if they wished.

As it is I have no plans to move, I don't want to leave my friends behind, I'm doubtful I could get a better connection if they put the servers somewhere silly like the edge of eastern europe (for the best connection for the whole continent) and I don't need a better connection, I've got a better connection to the canadian servers than half of america (a single ocean is better than going through the whole of america).

Everyone is assuming the EU servers will be placed in the centre of western europe.