[To Devs] Transferring FC to upcoming EU datacenter

[Vantol]

Greetings,

Short backstory: at 1.0 launch Lindblum and one more server, which name I can't remember, were choosen by community as EU servers. Time passed and Lindblum became Sargatanas. More time passed and at 2.0 launch for some weird reason it wasn't among EU legacy servers. Many players lost their chars and moved to new EU servers but many decided to stay.

Here I represent questions of at least 800 players (half of them isn't very active, but many planning to return at 3.0 launch) who are going to move from Sargatanas to EU server, when more info about EU datacenter is released. Particular server will be choosen at FCs meeting later.

FC transfer

Will there be service to transfer whole FC? I mean there must be. Will I, as FC leader, have to pay for all members, since not of them are always online and it's hard to coordinate. For example, my FC has ~60 members, so it will cost me 1080$. Well, ok, but what about 300-400 members FCs? Will we be able to keep FC rank, points, name. What about FC chest and items/money?

FC house

Server 2nd large house, 200-something millions. Are we going to loose everything? If new wards are released, is it possible to lock them for a few days at least, so FCs looking to transfer can move their houses there first?

Gil cap

Our top crafter has around 700 millions, with current 1-mil-transfer cap he gonna shot himself. It will cost him 12600$ to create char, take 1 mil, transfer, delete, repeat (RMT service is much cheaper, mind you). Same goes for many other members.

FC airship

If answer to previous questions is "No, we want to see you suffer and cry", what about airships? If EU datacenter isn't released at 3.0 launch (which seems to be the case) and we spend more hundreds of millions and man-hours to build one, can we deattach it from FC, place it in inventory and transfer with it? Please, make at least this an option.

P.S.

Server roominess

Is there any info on EU servers roominess? Which of them will be able to take in 800 players? Cause we don't want to end in situation, where half of our FC members will be forced to stay on old server or transfer somewhere else.

Best regards and thank you.

[Natashio]

I'm going to guess that when those new EU servers are made, what will most likely happen is that they will just transfer the current data that on the current EU servers and move them over. Just a wild guess, don't quote me on this.

Now..for the transfers. Seeing that you are in Sargatanas, which is not an EU server, most likely the current transfer rules will apply. Meaning, you will lose the house, the gil limit will be 1 million/300 something gil per retainer. There is no free company transfers because you have to drop from the free company anyways before transferring. If there's already a free company that has the same name as yours, you will have to come up with a new name and start from rank 1.

[Kiara1]

I'm going to guess that when those new EU servers are made, what will most likely happen is that they will just transfer the current data that on the current EU servers and move them over.

I really hope this is the case cause like OP I have an FC and a medium house and it took me soo long to save up for it and all the furniture inside.
Luckily we got like 5 active players in my fc so that isn't a problem, but i'd have to stay in the canada server if i can't move my house with me

[SongJoohee]

All servers based in Chaos will likely be transferred to the EU Datacenter.

Forcing all the EU players to transfer would be chaos, between lost FCs, lost housing plots, lost friends lists, transferring to different servers than your friends etc. Migrating the entire set of servers will be hard, but far less trouble than forcing the 100s of thousands of EU players to transfer.

But I just saw you're in Sargatanas. Well, that's your own fault. It's clearly listed that that is an NA Server. Perhaps if you're lucky people will be given free transfers, but I doubt it, since as I said earlier, the datacenter for Europe is clearly listed and Sargatanas is not in it.

PS. As far as I'm aware, paid-for server transfers do not have the same limitation as attempting to create new characters, so you should be able to transfer fine.

[Vantol]

Well, that's your own fault.

Well, that's completly SE's fault, because they made Sargatanas, which was EU during 1.0 version, into NA server when 2.0 launched for no reason. But it was irrelevant at that time - both EU and NA servers were in Canada and it was stated, that no other datacenters will be created. Now it is not the case. And I think SE should compensate it somehow.

[SongJoohee]

Well, that's completly SE's fault, because they made Sargatanas, which was EU during 1.0 version, into NA server when 2.0 launched for no reason. But it was irrelevant at that time - both EU and NA servers were in Canada and it was stated, that no other datacenters will be created. Now it is not the case. And I think SE should compensate it somehow.

It was announced 2 months before launch that Ragnarok would be the recommended server for Legacy players from Europe.

You were already given multiple chances to transfer to the EU Servers. You had a 4 week period in P3 of the beta - which waived all the current transfer restrictions, and then there was another week of free transfers in the October after launch to help friends get on the same servers.

[Sigiria]

Well, that's completly SE's fault, because they made Sargatanas, which was EU during 1.0 version, into NA server when 2.0 launched for no reason. But it was irrelevant at that time - both EU and NA servers were in Canada and it was stated, that no other datacenters will be created. Now it is not the case. And I think SE should compensate it somehow.

Well, that's because EU community choose different servers by themselves, later in the V1 when SE merged the server they created the whole new "Ragnarok" server, the only one they branded "EU". Everyone had the choice to transfer onto that new server or remain on the server created from the old ones, knowing it would be a "NA" server to SE. I remember at the time, all the flame on the forum "Ragnarok will be a dead server with only EU players/ not being 2 old servers merged" Well it's not so shabby right now.
It's not strange because Sargatanas, unlike Ragnarok, was never seen as a EU server by SE.

[Felis]

Well, that's completly SE's fault, because they made Sargatanas, which was EU during 1.0 version, into NA server when 2.0 launched for no reason.

Sargatanas was nether a EU server since its creation during the merge 2012.
1.0 had only 1 EU server and that was Ragnarok (still EU server in ARR). But because no servers got merged into Ragnarok and nobody got transfered automatic to Ragnarok but only those who were active during the merge and applied for a transfer to it were on Ragnarok after the merge and at the start of ARR.

[VarinaVashai]

There has never been EU servers in FFXIV 1.0 or ARR 2.0.

There has been attempts to gather as many EU players as you could reach to the same server to increase the activity during the peak hours in EU. This was done by the players in 1.0 where the players tried to raise awarness and gather as many european players as they could on Lindblum. in 2.0 Square enix labeled servers as Recommended for Eu time zone players, as an attampt to gather ppl active during eu peak hours.

Eu has been waiting for its own region for FFXIV since it was announced it would be released with regional play for JP, NA and EU on its relaunch.

So when we do get the EU datacenter, we should be offered the same deal as was offered moving from FFXIV onto the ARR datacenters.

Lets not argue over something that still doesnt exist is my point, Heavensward is around the cornor. And we will be playing that on the NA datacenter, so prepare your hearts to be broken again. While we wait for our beloved datacenter. "Please look forward too it"

[Felis]

There has never been EU servers in FFXIV 1.0 or ARR 2.0.

There has been attempts to gather as many EU players as you could reach to the same server to increase the activity during the peak hours in EU. This was done by the players in 1.0 where the players tried to raise awarness and gather as many european players as they could on Lindblum

Maybe before the merge in spring 2012.
But during the merge it was SE who wanted as many EU players as possible to gather in one new server



Ragnarok *

* Recommended for European time zone players