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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandpark View Post
    @Preypacer
    No these questions are the big point. You seem to think FC housing is just for storage and playing decorate.
    At no point did I say that. I've said quite the opposite throughout my posts, giving examples from other MMOs that have done it well, as a point of comparison for how XIV has done it poorly.

    If you're going to respond to my posts, read them first and acknowledge what I say. Don't cherry-pick, or just put words in my mouth. It's incredibly rude, and dishonest.

    Boiling it down to the absolute basics, forgetting all the benefits and such of owning one:
    Other MMOs have launched housing systems where, upon release, every single character has access to at least one house, without anyone ever having to go without because "the system can't handle it". FFXIV has not even reached this point yet. So, right out of the gate, forgetting everything else, FFXIV is already way behind every other MMO that offers housing of some kind. Hell, on those terms, even FFXI's Mog House system far surpasses XIV's.



    Quote Originally Posted by Sandpark View Post
    Those things are great for FC and as long as they give others without FC a smaller scale instance of that then it is super. FC housing is proving that it is more than just an art house and storage with the upcoming airship content for FC. Those things you listed from other housing has been done in most mmos, but there hasn't been many mmos that design content out of it.
    They've been done in other MMOs, and in a way that allowed all players to enjoy them, by making sure housing was available to all characters.

    Bringing it back to FFXIV, the benefits of housing is utterly pointless when a large number of players have no way to enjoy them because obtaining a house is out of their reach, for reasons out of their control. This has been the core point of my posts, and this thread which, for some reason, you keep completely ignoring.

    XIV's current housing implementation was poorly designed and poorly implemented. This is evident in the fact that threads like this even have to be made. The adjustments being made to it are band-aids to lessen the ill-effects. They're not fixes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandpark View Post
    These systems would not be separate. Huge FC airships are FC only, SE is only offering airships outside to allow people who do not like big FC or can get one to still have access to some content. If you look at it solely as a housing system. Then perhaps those games you listed were more accessible. FFXIV FC housing is more than just your typical housing district with upcoming content tied to the free company housing. Every hypothetical I listed is tied to the housing system.
    Again, the housing in other MMOs does provide additional gameplay benefits beyond just the housing/storage aspects. I've already described this, and have given examples... which, again, you keep conveniently ignoring. And regardless, all of what you say about XIV's housing is irrelevant if people do not have a way to access it, which is - yet again - the main point here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandpark View Post
    Has it been perfect so far? No, they had some design overlooks. But as with everything they create, it is iterative not perfect out of the gate.
    You've gone full apologist. Never go full apologist.

    "some design overlooks"?

    You have quite the knack for understatement.

    Iterative? This isn't iterative. This is a fundamentally poorly designed system with band-aids being applied to it.
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    Last edited by Preypacer; 08-27-2015 at 02:13 AM.