Start working on your relics <3

[AskaRay]

More like please no Alexandrite stage.

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

I hope this time arround exist a balance between time-performance window of the weapon.

Honestly, the performance windows of the Relic were far too short, yet the time it took to get them, was insanely long, so much, it was literally not worth the effort considering you could get the raid weapons probably faster than the relics which were supposed to "help" in the first place...

I would rather have a faster to get, good looking progressive weapon that never reaches BiS and is doomed to a second or third place, than what we had (a very long to get, second to BiS (small windows) weapon).

[Xatsh]

Relics in 2.X were just no where near strong enough for the time required to obtain them that was my issue.

And as other said the life span of the relic after you spent that long obtaining it was extremely short.

I honestly expect the same thing in 3.X considering this expansion is basically a double down of the 2.X game systems.

I do not understand why anyone would waste time on a relic. If you are raiding get the raid weapons from the final turn (Use upgrade token weapons until then). IF you are not raiding just the get the token items and save yourself 100s of hours of time wasted and get the raid weapon once they mega nerf it when the new tier comes out. There is just no real reason to get them unless you are just extremely bored, and this is from someone who feels the game has too many handouts.

The time vs reward ratio is just too too low for relics.

Relics are basically Vanity weapon. A 100+hr long vanity item.

[RyuRoots]

There's literally no reason to bother. I just used augmented ironworks weapons for the most part and quit my sphairai after animus waaaay long ago because I got tired of the tedium of light farming just to get nexus for glamour. This made even worse now in that there's no real reason for anyone to bother doing lv50 content (other than fates) since you don't get exp from them so if you want to light farm you have to JUST light farm and get absolutely nothing else out of it.

[Moonleg]

They're not the driving force of the entire expansion either, so I don't know where you got that from.

As I understood what I have heard in passing there will BE no other weapons in that expansion. You either have the relic - or you have a weapon from the PREVIOUS expansion. Possibly a leveling weapon, I don't know.

That sounds like a pretty driving feature to me if it's true.

[Sylve]

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This right here is the problem with MMORPG players these days. In order to do *anything* within the game, you demand to be rewarded with only the very best items.
You're not interested in anything if it doesn't give you the "Best in Slot" rewards.

And then people wonder why devs don't make wider varieties of content.

[Amberyl]

This right here is the problem with MMORPG players these days. In order to do *anything* within the game, you demand to be rewarded with only the very best items.
You're not interested in anything if it doesn't give you the "Best in Slot" rewards.

And then people wonder why devs don't make wider varieties of content.

They bred that mentality with vertical progression. You reap what you sow.

[Colorful]

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Maybe because the content is designed around a progression system, or JRPGs/RPGs in general really. I don't get what your point is. This isn't "anything", it's a long and tedious grind for the sake of a decent weapon. It's not fun content, you expect people to waste hundreds of hours for the sake of a single glamour?


@Gunspec, they can't "mess up" the artifact system. If anything, it'll be easier to balance the content around those weapons specifically, and they know full well how to balance content as they've had over 10 years of experience now. Sure they mess up here and there, but something this major? I doubt it, especially when it's something as simple as balancing stats on a weapon. I don't see how that would make the game unplayable. The only thing it'll lack is weapon variety really, sure there are skins, but they all have the same base look, but that can be said for FFXIV as each class only has access to one weapon type with a few exceptions.

[Reynhart]

Relics in 2.X were just no where near strong enough for the time required to obtain them that was my issue.

Yet Nexus and Zeta were BiS and far more people obtained them than people who cleared Second or Final Coil.

And as other said the life span of the relic after you spent that long obtaining it was extremely short.

I've done each step as they come and I've spent far more time using my relic than obtaining it. People are really exaggerating the time it takes for each step. "I've spent 6 month full time FATE farming for my 12 Atmas"...No, you didn't.

I do not understand why anyone would waste time on a relic.

I don't know...playing the game, maybe ? It's not like you won't do dungeons for everything else than relics, so why is it a problem to do both ?

The time vs reward ratio is just too too low for relics.

Your calculation is very wrong. You sound like each relic step would only help your relic progression, which is absolutely false.
By just doing my relic, I've been able to equip all my jobs with full Soldiery gear, then Poetics gear...things I would have done anyway.
I've spent a lot of gils on it, too...but seriously, there's nothing interesting to spent gils on, anyway...

[Galaktica]

Naaaaaah, I'm good. Even without having completed it, I feel confident in saying that the relic quest was easily the most tedious thing I personally have ever experienced in this game. Besides, I don't even like the way any of the relics look with or without the effects so even if I was just in it for the glamour, they have nothing to offer me.