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  1. #61
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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Adore Mi
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    To get back to the OP's topic:

    I have noticed (on both healer and DPS roles) that the trend for me is that the estimated wait time will say something like 5 minutes, or even under 5 minutes, and I end up waiting 2-3 times that before the queue finally pops. This happens more often than it does not.
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    Player Nomad-phx's Avatar
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    Damon Savinski
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    The point I was getting at earlier was out of all players the roles are dps = 62%/ heals and tanks = combined 38%. Not exactly very balanced when I only ever see other tanks on my server standing afk in endgame areas while you can't fart in eorzea without hitting 10 dps in the face lol
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  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad-phx View Post
    The point I was getting at earlier was out of all players the roles are dps = 62%/ heals and tanks = combined 38%. Not exactly very balanced when I only ever see other tanks on my server standing afk in endgame areas while you can't fart in eorzea without hitting 10 dps in the face lol
    Ques times are alot better now then they were pre- heavesward. Most I have waited was 25 mins as DPS. Pre- 3.0 Usually more than 30 mins.

    But I normally avg around 12 min wait times.

    I even got a insta que today. oddly enough!
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  4. #64
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    Noshpan's Avatar
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    Ganth Fyrion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ampheni View Post
    Instead of trying to get more tanks to queue up in df, how about everyone try to help out with the queue time by tanking in df?

    <---DRK that tanks in DF.
    No thanks. I'd sooner gouge out my eyes with a filthy, rusty spork than queue as tank or healer in DF. I don't find tanking or healing boring, I just would rather NOT deal with the hassle (& harassment) of being in one of those roles. I get it enough as DPS. As much as I would like to become a decent tank for my FC & linkshells, just... I'll pass.
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    I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

  5. #65
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    Originally Posted by Assirra View Post
    If any role in this game treats other like crap and has an ego from here to Tokyo it's tanks...
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    Totally agree. Tanks have the worst attitude, by far, than any other role in this game. Then they come on the forum and act like the victim.
    It's sad to see that you guys had some hard times with Tanks, but let's not put all of them in the same basket. I've seen lots of bad apples coming from Healers, DPS, and some Tanks, just like know-it-alls, allmighty, I don't care I can requeue super fast so don't tick me..

    It's not the Job: it's the players behind the computer. Some lack education, single kid, spoiled that can think they can do whatever they want bec hey, Internet Anonymity.. (heck even older people cause, you know.. still the same old )

    Guess what: you've been treated like dirt? Report Button is there.

    It's a pain to fill up, but eventually we'll get rid of some of them, while the other ones will learn the lessons, that this game requires teamwork, patience, and.. fun altogether.
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  6. #66
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    M'irau Rhya
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfAbyss View Post
    It's sad to see that you guys had some hard times with Tanks, but let's not put all of them in the same basket. I've seen lots of bad apples coming from Healers, DPS, and some Tanks, just like know-it-alls, allmighty, I don't care I can requeue super fast so don't tick me..

    It's not the Job: it's the players behind the computer. Some lack education, single kid, spoiled that can think they can do whatever they want bec hey, Internet Anonymity.. (heck even older people cause, you know.. still the same old )

    Guess what: you've been treated like dirt? Report Button is there.

    It's a pain to fill up, but eventually we'll get rid of some of them, while the other ones will learn the lessons, that this game requires teamwork, patience, and.. fun altogether.
    Honestly, my reply was more a knee-jerk reaction to the victim playing card and using it as an excuse for being a dick yourself.

    I know there are rotten apples in every role, i met them from all sides (even unspected ones like suddenly a person blowing up out of nowhere)
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  7. #67
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    Those mentioning the 5 min estimated queue times, but getting 10-30 min waits, I've also experienced this as well. My best guess is that for the roulettes that allow players to join as parties, there are a lot more people logging on and running them as set groups instead of queueing individually. That way you'd get lower estimated queue times, but there isn't any available space in the groups that are queueing. Now, if that's not the case, the only thing that could be happening is a huge burst of players coming on in a very short time frame and queueing up. Those following the wave would get really low estimated queue times not representative of their actual wait time.
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  8. #68
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    Sorry for the bump, but I wanted to let you know that the dev. team is currently looking into adjusting how the matching algorithm works, and they are currently aiming to implement this in Patch 3.1.

    We would love to hear your feedback after these changes have been applied so we can further look into improving the queue times in the future to make playing even more enjoyable.
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    Tony "Zhexos" Caraway - Community Team

  9. #69
    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhexos View Post
    We would love to hear your feedback after these changes have been applied so we can further look into improving the queue times in the future to make playing even more enjoyable.
    Zhexos.

    Seriously, let's talk. There is no shortage of tanks in the game, but tanks are in short supply in DF and Duty Roulette. Everyone knows all the reasons why a lot of players who level a tank job, don't use it in Duty Finder. The problem is that the responsibility and stress that part time (and many full-time) tanks face in dungeons through DF/DR are not worth the return for doing it. The Adventurer in need function is a great idea, but the rewards do not scale well, and are not attracting tanks to run things in DF/DR pick-up groups.

    I think you need to revamp the rewards for the Adventurer in Need bonus, and I don't mean shower players in seals or gil. What might work well would be a unique token system, call the tokens favors. You're doing the community a favor by running content as the class in need, so Favors seems an appropriate name. The Favors should accumulate and be tradeable for specific mounts, minions, glamor items and/or special titles.

    Using Tomes, seals and/or gil as the primary reward requires that either the reward is made considerably richer, or that it becomes obtainable multiple times making it exploitable. A token reward system (Favors) on the other hand is harder to exploit, and new items can be added over time as rewards - such as, but not limited to rare dyes, and old gear items no longer obtainable, but still in the game, such as a real metal armor set for casters (as a glamor).

    The Adventurer in Need system as it stands works well, if more tanks were attracted to DF, Q times would fall, and healers and DPS might even see their names mentioned as the adventurer in need.
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  10. #70
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    Irvin Izanagi
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    In DCUO they had roleless buffs so if you didn't have role in the group, the group would get a buff.

    fro example no tank- roleless buff would be - group takes less damage,
    no healer- health regen slowly roleless buff
    no dps- damage increase roleless buff

    Of course ppl can have the optional to queue in for balanced group if desired.

    Its a pain that we have to wait so long we content we know we can beat and we enjoy just b/c the DF becomes an unavoidable obstacle
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    This method solved the long que times for all content. FF14 has the population we just need the DF more customized to ensure a quick and enjoyable experience for everyone.
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    Last edited by AzraelX; 10-08-2015 at 04:50 AM.

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