Lack of LB usage in PVP

[Culfinrandir]

I don't know who you're playing with but there's something weird about them. I see LBs of all types on Primal. As for healer LBs, you are unlikely to even notice it happens as all it does it increase your health & remove a debuff (if there is one). No different from any other big heal. Plus they only work if you're close enough to the healer and in Seal Rock it's usual for a team to be scattered like Showgirls pearls.

[Urthdigger]

IF healer only have 1 person around to heal with the lb is his problem for being in a terrible position or the party for chasing ppl

The problem is less a lack of party members in range, but more that any alliance worth their salt is going to charge straight for the healers.

The other concern is the cast time for it. The healer is likely to die before they can use it to heal themselves. Or any other party member getting swarmed for that matter.

[CeveArthu]

Healing wise, the Healer LB is barely worth its cast time and animation length

Esuna wise its worth it though, but as blubbers said if the healer isnt on the frontlines taking hits for the team then any non-terrible team will be gunning for them anyway

[Cero0]

The problem is less a lack of party members in range, but more that any alliance worth their salt is going to charge straight for the healers.

The other concern is the cast time for it. The healer is likely to die before they can use it to heal themselves. Or any other party member getting swarmed for that matter.

As i said the lack of party members in range is their own fault, but as i said too making it have better range would be great.the first thing you should say in the party as healer is" dont chase and stay in my range or you wont get heals"

The cast time is super short, if you use it when you have 1k hp left ofc you will die before you can cast it.

[JubjubTubs]

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Telling people to 'stay in range or you won't get heals' doesn't work. It only works in pre-mades and if you're in pre-made... it all is eventually (or should and if not, get a new pre-made) going to run like a well oiled machine and steam roll enemies reguardless of what the LB is.

And healers shouldn't be responsible for impatient and/or over zealous DDs stretching out beyond their means. <--- + GC restrictions forcing more people to not be with some of their friends but instead with random ppl makes healing a pain + the time to build LB bar + cast time = healer LB feels kinda blah in Seize. Secure n Slaughter were different... less roaming, less spread out, current healer LB made more sense. Seize... nope.

[CeveArthu]

The cast time is super short

the animation lock is very long though

[Stupiduglytaru]

Whilst I agree dieing out of range of your healers ia your fault.

The amount of healers I have seen not following their alliance is worrying, healer lb partiality in slaughter was a great recovery tool from caster lb. It still is today however the general chaotic splitting up of alliances really does affect how well a gc can perform.

There is no set A + B beach node C defend spawn node etc, even with this rng its still possible to do it.

Some people still are unaware the lb is theirs and not the parties, anx even more still don't know about pvp skills....

[Cero0]

yeah the animation lock is almost 2 seconds same for the rest of Lbs.Worth waiting for half of ur hp back.

The only thing i would agreed is if they make it has more range.Honestly when i play dps i always try to be close to my healer or i would be fucked, i wont get tired of saying this if they are away fromt the healer is their problem lol or the healer problem coz he doesnt follow his team.

[CeveArthu]

yeah the animation lock is almost 2 seconds same for the rest of Lbs.Worth waiting for half of ur hp back.

that assuming that everyone else is in range and you dont have enough mp for cure III/medica/etc

If there isnt tonnes of debuffs to remove, it is far safer and faster to cast 3 aoe heal skills instead, if you are a scholar or astrologian then precasting the LB to counter an enemy caster LB is alright, but not really as useful as just shielding the people getting LB'd

[Cero0]

that assuming that everyone else is in range and you dont have enough mp for cure III/medica/etc

If there isnt tonnes of debuffs to remove, it is far safer and faster to cast 3 aoe heal skills instead, if you are a scholar or astrologian then precasting the LB to counter an enemy caster LB is alright, but not really as useful as just shielding the people getting LB'd

And here is where the right moment to use it matters,i usually use it when i dont have anything left, after i blew all my instant skills/equanimity runs out, it always save the day.

Btw i dont want to make a new thread to ask this so i im going ask here, i know weekly reset in lodestone is from monday to sunday, anyone know the exact timing,/hour.