Elder Primal?

[Belhi]

It could easily be the First Umbral Calamity. The Age of Gods ends with a Wind aspected calamity, which could explain the origin myth of the Vanu Vanu and the wind crystals that hold the sky islands aloft. The Vanu Vanu may have lived alongside the Roegadyn and shared myths, and when the calamity occurred, the Vanu Vanu were raised to the skies and the Roegadyn left on the ground. It's more likely than blaming absolutely every Primal's origins on the Allagans.

I don't think all primal origins are Allag. Most I suspect aren't. The Allag solution to the Bismarck origin just seemed to fit well. This combined with the fact that we know the Allag were involved with at least some of the beastmen and the fact that the Moggles indicate that most of the sky islands were once a single floating landmass. If the destruction of that landmass, which sounds like the Fire Calamity, included the lands in the Sea of Clouds, and with Moogle structures there its quite possible, It would suggest that the Vanu Vanu some time later since their legends don't include any firey destruction and credit the existence of the sky Islands to Bismarck.

Again, I don't want or think all primal origins are linked to the Allagans. Im even hoping the Void Ark isn't Allagan. Im currently more interested in the astral eras we know nothing about.

[Kaiser-Ace]

Could the Malukmani (or how ever it's spelled) actually have been one of the sea serpents if Sea Wolf myth and Bismark taken the Vanu Vanu to the Sea of Clouds for protection?

Lets say Bismark was a Mighty White Whale that was hunted by anouther, Darker Collored sea beast and was granted the power to fly (if it wanted) and the sightings ths Sea Wolves have of Bismark is legendary times was when The Great Whale Bismark decended intonthe Seas to combat a great serpent and save the Vanu Vanu.

The that fills all the gaps. And Primal Bismark is just a perverted memory of The White brought forth from the primal summoning.

[Zohar_Lahar]

Maybe the Manukmanai have something to do with the Void Ark?

Manukmanai ---> Makai --> Mhachi

[WyrahFhurrst]

Maybe the Manukmanai have something to do with the Void Ark?

Manukmanai ---> Makai --> Mhachi

Ooooh! I like that idea. Dark whale-like being hunting the White. Alternatively, Unukalai and Manukmanai have quite the name similarity, don't they?

[Corvinoobus]

Going to jump in here ever so briefly to state that "Elder Primal Quests" was a mistake made in those 300 hour 3.0 months. This category will be renamed to "Heavensward Primal Quests" in a future update. Why this particularly phrasing, you may wonder? Well, it is important that the category be broad, for various reasons which will become apparent in time.

You may now return to your regularly scheduled discussion!

[Alberel]

Going to jump in here ever so briefly to state that "Elder Primal Quests" was a mistake made in those 300 hour 3.0 months. This category will be renamed to "Heavensward Primal Quests" in a future update. Why this particularly phrasing, you may wonder? Well, it is important that the category be broad, for various reasons which will become apparent in time.

You may now return to your regularly scheduled discussion!

Sooo this is basically confirmation that we'll be facing an Elder Primal as part of the 3.X quest series. Nice.

[Exodus-E]

Sooo this is basically confirmation that we'll be facing an Elder Primal as part of the 3.X quest series. Nice.

Not to mention that this pretty much seals the deal on us facing regular Primals for the 3.X quest series as well (as if there was any doubt on that).

[treuhavik]

Sooo this is basically confirmation that we'll be facing an Elder Primal as part of the 3.X quest series. Nice.

Yep. Though I imagine any and all aetheric beigns introduced in HW will be lumped into this category.

[Fenral]

Corvinoobus, you are a hero, as usual.

[Kaiser-Ace]

On the topic of Rahmu, it's worth noting that Rahmu himself has forbidden his summoning and up until the waning of the 6th Astral Era they were to afraid to summon him lest they invoke his wrath by doing so.

And on the topic of Allag and the beast tribes, The Ixali are the only beast tribe to have ANY valid connection to them. The Pre-Ixali found in The Fractal Continuum were made by Allag but evolved into the Ixali with out aid. For all we know The Vanu Vanu came into contact with the 1st Ixali to not be able to fly and were intrusted with the Key to Azys Lla (Later to be call Atliyan or what ever) incase the Ixali were ever able to come back. Then years in and near the twelves wood deteriorated their genetics even further to where even their wings started disappearing. The Ixali being an artificial life form (Their ancestors being 100% engineered from scratch) could be why the Elementals don't like them as well.