Quote Originally Posted by SinisterJointss View Post
I would agree with you but in the end I do things in XIV because I have fun doing them. Not because of some methodical trickery that makes me think im having fun. I have fun playing with my friends, pvp, crafting, the list goes on. I choose to play this game, the game doesnt force me to.

I think you DO agree with me. I never said that I thought FFXIV was unfun. It has problems but I've been defending it in this thread. Like I said up above I don't think that FFXIV relies on operant conditioning anywhere near as much as some other MMOs. There is some of that in the game, it sort of comes with the genre, but I find Eorzea an engaging place to be in. Heck, I've been leveling an alt just to see the story again.