Thread: Void Ark 24 member raid for 3.1

Originally Posted by PandaPause

Hard to believe you can reach your KB and type all that out from the pedestal you're on.


Will I literally be soul crushed? no

Was it friendly banter about the inevitable re-skin that SE has shown us over and over again? yes.

But just in case I find myself in a pit of despair and severe depression I'll heed your advice.

You have to wonder how deep in in the hole our species is dug in when a foundation on logic and reasoning is considered a pedestal these days.

And it's not 'friendly banter'. It's hyperbole, and it's overused, and trite. Same thing with the parroted phrase 'reskin' when you likely have no idea the effort placed into these projects to begin with. People who use that excuse really just scream a complete lack of appreciation and understanding, and really should be better off elsewhere.

If you want to criticize something, actually commentate on the fights you'll experience, the art direction being taken, the questionably low difficulty curve, the lack of long-term investments in keeping the content active as seen with Crystal Tower.

There are dozens of better criticisms to have that only take the slightest modicum of intellect to bring up, rather than just echo chamber a complaint that falls on deaf ears as you sit and do it over and over again regardless of your substance-less gripes. If anything is being 'reskinned' it's that. It's not even a valid complaint.

Originally Posted by TheRogueX

I guess you're someone who doesn't believe that mental effort is ever at all as difficult or exhausting as physical effort, hmm?

No. I'm just highly intolerant of Tryhards who believe Massive Multiplayer games have ever or should require e-sports level dedication or mental to be worthwhile. Especially that even though if it did, they would fall horribly, horribly short of the mark. I used physical effort for ease of understanding. Telling him he would have to spend 8-10 hours a day trying to reach an optimum level APM would likely go over his head.

Originally Posted by Radacci

hahaha ...no -.-
it always makes me roll my eyes, when ppl think ilv=win.
i frequently out-dps ppl with 20ilv more than me.
i'm ilv 174, and someone set 180 for....alexander NM...so i was excluded from that...
i convinced them to take me along...as long as i could perform well....really?
the result? the ilv 190 ppl kept on wiping us.

Law of averages again, proves you wrong.

What you just described is the exception that proves the rule.

Sure, a well played, lower ilvl player is going to outdo a higher geared, poor player. But buy in large you're going to net more clears with better gear - it simply gives players more margin for error.
I'm not one of those people to set an inflated ilvl requirement for raids, because I know good skill will carry bad gear, which is why the minimum ilvl is set where it is in the instance. But as people get better geared, they're going to be able to clear more.

But please don't put words into my mouth. Me saying that gear helps result in more clear does not equate to 'ilvl = win'. But you're foolish if you think it doesn't help.



TL;DL? I really need to curb myself of reading threads like these. These sort of base reactions with little or no understanding or research behind them really just winds up infuriating. I'm better off writing an FAQ to the parrot-speak.

I'm expecting the one loot per week cap. I'm expecting the usual tanks that ignore adds while the healers faces get ripped clean off but wonder why the heals let them die, also the ones that provoke bosses off of each other to effectively measure their e penor. I'm expecting complaining about the loot system, complaining about the trolls, wipes, people trying to ignore mechanics and falling flat on their faces, I forsee many rage quits and insults to be thrown to the point where I'll feel like I'm running team deathmatch again on cod, I also expect to be running this 3 months later with all of above continuing (especially ignoring mechanics). Also, there's most likely to be some complaining about the complaining.

What I'm actually looking forward to is the new and usually beautiful soundtrack for the raid, new bosses, hopefully new mechanics, running this for the first time with my fc (my first time with them in wod was a blast and so much fun going in blind), the general aesthetics, and the new gear sets. I'm just hoping I'm not as let down with their stats as I was with my esoterics for my main.

Originally Posted by Hyrist

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According to your lodestone you don't raid or in fact have much experience w/ this game at all.

The hypocrisy of calling other people's criticisms invalid is laughable when you really don't have a place to make any yourself.

You should probably heed your own advice for once and not check threads like these or frequent these forums. Maybe all those other MMO's you played would love to have you back.

Originally Posted by PandaPause

According to your lodestone you don't raid or in fact have much experience w/ this game at all.

The hypocrisy of calling other people criticisms invalid is laughable when you really don't have a place to make any yourself.

You should probably heed your own advice for once and not check threads like these or frequent these forums. Maybe all those other MMO's you played would love to have you back.

... Your argument makes no sense, whatsoever. First off, Lodestone is inaccurate when your class distrobution is spread across 7 characters. Though this one is the main. However in order for me to be hypocritical at all, I'd have to be heavily complaining about the game on how boring on the game or relying upon hyperbole to express my points.

I don't complain that this game is 'too easy' or casually insult the game. If I was, while I was criticizing others for doing so, THEN. I would be hypocritical.

I've got plenty to do in game. And I'm enjoying myself. I rather enjoy taking content slow and avoiding the stress of raiding, seeming I'm a storyteller for a small RP FC (Which has been around longer than yours, I see.) I actually put effort into enjoying myself rather than complaining at SE to give me my entertainment.

I don't qualify under the term 'hypocrite' because I'm not guilty of the same things I'm calling other people out on -

As you're having difficulty following that, let me clarify:

I'm highly intolerant of people relying on parroting others to make their complaints about this game and to banter about it like it's some terrible thing. In this cause specifically, I'm referring to the "reskinned" trope which is horribly invalid and relies upon generalizing virtually all details regarding any piece of content. The closest thing we have to re-skinned content is Primal Difficulty tiers - which isn't what people are complaining about, oddly.
I'm also highly intolerant of players who claim this game his horribly easy and have no long term goals when they've clearly not explored such.

I would have to be guilty of my own complaints for that to happen - most importantly, I would have to be complaining about the game on these two points, which I am not. And unlike most other combatants on these boards, I go in depth, I find evidence to try to prove my point when numbers are a factor, and I explain myself when called upon to instead of generalizing. I actually try to avoid buzz words on the other end of the tier like 'entitled' even though some people do in fact fall into that stereotype.

So good try, but you've got nothing.

Coffins on the bottom o.O

Vampires? =O

Some sort of vampyric class?


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