Heals, DPS, and comms

[Anastacy]

Highly anecdotal and does not prove or disprove anything due to small (and uncontrolled) sample size.

Also does not account for people not caring to give out commendations. Also assumes that the healer deserves comms over other players (namely the other "visible" party member, the tank).

Don't make much of the situation, and DPS as a healer. Faster runs benefit you, as well.

[Risvertasashi]

Also does not account for people not caring to give out commendations. Also assumes that the healer deserves comms over other players (namely the other "visible" party member, the tank).

It actually does account for both points, if you read it. It was a pretty simple experiment: Long term, which playstyle nets more comms? It's not like he just ran a single or even just a few dungeons (Over 100 dungeon runs for each playstyle...)

Not that it doesn't have limitations but if one style consistently gets you better results over the long term, well...

[Anastacy]

It actually does account for both points, if you read it. It was a pretty simple experiment: Long term, which playstyle nets more comms? It's not like he just ran a single or even just a few dungeons (Over 100 dungeon runs for each playstyle...)

Not that it doesn't have limitations but if one style consistently gets you better results over the long term, well...

Please directly quote which lines from the Reddit OP's post deal directly with the two points I mentioned (people not caring to give commendations + assuming the healer "deserves" them above anyone else).

[Risvertasashi]

Please directly quote which lines from the Reddit OP's post deal directly with the two points I mentioned (people not caring to give commendations + assuming the healer "deserves" them above anyone else).

First two months : 124 dungeon runs, 141 commendations. Average : 1.14 commendation per run.
Last two months : 110 dungeon runs, 76 commendations. Average : 0.69 commendation per run.

/10character

[Anastacy]

/10character

Ah, OK then...I'm just going to assume you're not understanding what I'm saying, as the amount of runs the Reddit-OP made has nothing to do with either of my points you originally questioned.

I think I did read a comment on the Reddit post that mentioned that samples were split up pre-HW and post-HW, which also ties into the "uncontrolled" part of my first reply here.

[Risvertasashi]

Ah, OK then...I'm just going to assume you're not understanding what I'm saying, as the amount of runs the Reddit-OP made has nothing to do with either of my points you originally questioned.

I think I did read a comment on the Reddit post that mentioned that samples were split up pre-HW and post-HW, which also ties into the "uncontrolled" part of my first reply here.

I understood what you're saying; I don't see how it applies to the data. People that never comm would reduce the average comms of both sets (so it's irrelevant). Any expectation that healers deserve comms is irrelevant; the data was from simply testing the performance of each playstyle.

That is a good point about the timespan covering two periods, though, so that might be coloring the data.

[Anastacy]

I understood what you're saying; I don't see how it applies to the data. People that never comm would reduce the average comms of both sets (so it's irrelevant). Any expectation that healers deserve comms is irrelevant; the data was from simply testing the performance of each playstyle.

That is a good point about the timespan covering two periods, though, so that might be coloring the data.

You mention "both sets", but there's actually 2 additional (DPS and tank), neither of which the Reddit-OP makes a fair attempt to analyze along with healer comms. Secondly, the sample size is not near large enough to make any assumptions about peoples' behavior (to address "no comms given"). Factoring the other 2 roles into the analysis could help the sample size, however.

And it is an assumption that healers deserve commendations because none of the analysis takes into account that maybe the groups the Reddit-OP didn't get any comms had a good freakin' tank that everyone thought deserved them (to address "healers deserve comms assumption). Additionally to this, I've had people quit the instance so quickly that to have given a commendation would require super-human speed (for a bit more anecdote). The Reddit-OP has no way of knowing, out of a total 4 commendations, how many were *actually* given unless, of course, he receives 3 (thus another "uncontrolled" aspect of the analysis).

[Eudyptes]

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Another big factor, or even the biggest factor, is that people comm more when content is new and less when they are on run #296. So if this experiment is done in blocks (which I believe it is) instead of alternating it can make a massive impact on the outcome.

I used to have comms rain down on me after every run. Now half the group is out of the dungeon before my game can even auto-skip the final CS.