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    Mutemutt's Avatar
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    Mumuki Muki
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    I thought it was a pretty interesting experiment, even if there is a problem or two with how it was conducted. Honestly, it makes sense to me because I do get a little nervous when the healer plays lifebar limbo when I'm tanking, even though I do the same sort of thing when I go as a healer too.
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    Soda Scarlet
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    Well, for me as a SCH, playing with DF Tanks can result in 2 ways
    1: The tank does small pulls, and Selene can heal everything, so I DPS.
    2: The tank does big pulls, so he obviously want's this to go by quickly, so I DPS. (aka, dot up and bane + Swiftcast Shadow Flare, then heals up the tank)
    To stand out, I just make sure to time Stone Skin so it gets applied the second the last mob dies, and then I cast Adlo as he runs, then catch up with sprint.
    That way, I show the tank that I am keeping a sharp eye at his health at all time, and don't need to worry even if it dips low.

    And then we have the rare occasions where the tank is just... weird. But that is something completely different to this.
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    Dante Venarra
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    If you understand why this "survey" means very little in the nature of objective understanding I congratulate you on your understanding of science.
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by winsock View Post
    This isnt enough to say that full healing = more commendations.

    Some problems with this:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutemutt View Post
    I thought it was a pretty interesting experiment, even if there is a problem or two with how it was conducted. -snip-
    Please don't misunderstand. I think most of us know that this isn't something you'd publish in a scientific journal.

    But it's enough of a trend to raise some questions and, personally, pique my curiosity if anyone wants to do a more in depth experiment.
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    Dante Venarra
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    I do think it's interesting but there would need to be more research before any conclusion can be established on any real level.
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    There are so many variances and unaccounted for details to make any real conclusions from the data aside from that he received more commendations in one circumstance vs the other. Their is no real way to see how or why and there is no way to substantiate any of the work (peer review) the numbers and methodology so it in essence holds almost no weight towards any hard conclusions.
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    Akyio Tayin
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    with SCH i would get way more commendations than AST, but people see that roused fairy keeps the tank up, while im fully dpsing single target and AoE as well.

    i honestly can't believe that overhealing would give commendations ? overhealing in general is something that i just can't stand, its just such a waste of mp even if you have enough mp, and just a waste of time in general
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    Sanguisio Alorea
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    I've noticed this, when I worked hard to do nice dps and keep people topped up, usually get 1 comm even had a few people say just heal.

    But if I go brain afk and just over heal the shit out of the party comms for days.
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    Emil Lacroix
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    I main healer but when I run DPS in Expert Roulette I tend not to give comms to lazy healers. Sure letting the tank drop really low while you DPS and then using Benediction to top them up works, but it's just sloppy. My comms go to healers that go above and beyond - DPS, buffs, keep everyone at comfortable HP levels so they don't have to constantly wonder if you're actually going to heal them. Basic DPS healers who perform the absolute minimum of their role get no comms. Shaving 30 seconds or whatever off a run sure feels great up until we wipe because the healer was sloppy.
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Quote Originally Posted by FaizeD View Post
    I main healer but when I run DPS in Expert Roulette I tend not to give comms to lazy healers. Sure letting the tank drop really low while you DPS and then using Benediction to top them up works, but it's just sloppy. My comms go to healers that go above and beyond - DPS, buffs, keep everyone at comfortable HP levels so they don't have to constantly wonder if you're actually going to heal them. Basic DPS healers who perform the absolute minimum of their role get no comms. Shaving 30 seconds or whatever off a run sure feels great up until we wipe because the healer was sloppy.
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