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  1. #21
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    Kolsykol's Avatar
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Lich
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    I had a tank today, yelling at me '' Omg, don't go into Cleric!!!! '' the entire way through. Constantly.......
    Even tho nobody died, and I never let him drop bellow 60%. It's almost as if they think that they're going to just immediatly die or something if they're not topped off at all times xD.
    I usually think it's fine to stay in cleric until tank drops to around 60%. Yet, some people just seem to have the idea that the healer should stand there and do nothing for valuable seconds, and keep everyone at 100% all of the time.

    As if they stay bellow 100% for even a second, they would just EXPLODE or something :P...
    You wont.... I promise.
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    Last edited by Kolsykol; 08-22-2015 at 12:35 PM.

  2. #22
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    Ferrasper's Avatar
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    Doctor Fumbles
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    Gilgamesh
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    I never give my coms to the healers or tanks in the party. I always give it to the dps even if they did bad. The dps never get enough credits for runs.
    (1)

  3. #23
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    Erit's Avatar
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    Rowan Sternritter
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    Cuchulainn
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrasper View Post
    I never give my coms to the healers or tanks in the party. I always give it to the dps even if they did bad. The dps never get enough credits for runs.
    Mayhap this is just my own personal pessimism acting up, but rewards for bad behaviour only serve to beget more bad behaviour. Commending a DPS who ran ahead of the party to engage on the next pack of enemies simply tells them that such a thing is desired activity even though it is disrespectful to the wishes of the tank and, often as not, to the rest of the party, in addition to potentially placing the group in a dangerous situation by forcing the tank to become involved in a situation they avoided specifically because they were ill-equipped to deal with it. There is a very good reason that some tanks and healers have adopted the policy of, as goes the popular saying, "You spank it, you tank it." Myself and my static healer included.
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  4. #24
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    Ferrasper's Avatar
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    Doctor Fumbles
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    Gilgamesh
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Erit View Post
    Mayhap this is just my own personal pessimism acting up, but rewards for bad behaviour only serve to beget more bad behaviour. Commending a DPS who ran ahead of the party to engage on the next pack of enemies simply tells them that such a thing is desired activity even though it is disrespectful to the wishes of the tank and, often as not, to the rest of the party, in addition to potentially placing the group in a dangerous situation by forcing the tank to become involved in a situation they avoided specifically because they were ill-equipped to deal with it. There is a very good reason that some tanks and healers have adopted the policy of, as goes the popular saying, "You spank it, you tank it." Myself and my static healer included.
    Not that kind of bad. More of the dps wasn't the best, and they screwed up and died a little because they didn't see the AOE in time bad.
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  5. #25
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    Erit's Avatar
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    Rowan Sternritter
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    Cuchulainn
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrasper View Post
    Not that kind of bad. More of the dps wasn't the best, and they screwed up and died a little because they didn't see the AOE in time bad.
    Ah. Apologies for mistaking your intent, then. Personally my commendations sit unused for every few runs as people oft fail to impress or outright disappoint me, though I'm not afraid to commend a DPS who was indeed a boon to have.
    (1)

  6. #26
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    Ferrasper's Avatar
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    Doctor Fumbles
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    Gilgamesh
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Erit View Post
    Ah. Apologies for mistaking your intent, then. Personally my commendations sit unused for every few runs as people oft fail to impress or outright disappoint me, though I'm not afraid to commend a DPS who was indeed a boon to have.
    I don't see coms as a reward to give people if they impressed me or not. They are more less here you go because they are overall useless gear wise. The only thing it gets you is a mount really.
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  7. #27
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrasper View Post
    I don't see coms as a reward to give people if they impressed me or not. They are more less here you go because they are overall useless gear wise. The only thing it gets you is a mount really.
    Accordingly, I give this minor reward to players who impressed me over those who did not.
    (5)

  8. #28
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    Ani Celestine
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 80
    Well. I always dps on my sch, and mostly now rhat gear is starting to be better on everyone, I can sit in Cleric for something like 90% of time in both expert roulets, only exception being a pull count being 2(4,6 +chimera) when I have to start really healing for the latter pack from 1st boss to 2nd boss (usually tank's does 3 pull's with 4,3,3+chimera) in Fractal and generally always getting 2-3 commendations, it's just random with if you have people that commendates and if they just automatically gives it to tank and such.
    (0)
    People need to remember that a healer's job isn't to heal HP
    but rather to prevent HP from reaching 0
    "Sent on Android device"

  9. #29
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    Eudyptes's Avatar
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    Summer Lebeau
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Anastacy View Post
    -snip-
    Another big factor, or even the biggest factor, is that people comm more when content is new and less when they are on run #296. So if this experiment is done in blocks (which I believe it is) instead of alternating it can make a massive impact on the outcome.

    I used to have comms rain down on me after every run. Now half the group is out of the dungeon before my game can even auto-skip the final CS.
    (3)

  10. #30
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    Raminax's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Shinonome Sanada
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 92
    I'll admit there's some kind of double standard on me. I have absolutely no faith in other healers until we've done a few pulls, so me being below 75% HP while watching DoTs fly about makes me think "Oh dear, it seems I'm going to die. I'm hoping this healer drops Cleric Stance soon."

    ...even though I practically do the same thing as the healer that's doing some DPS, so I can only imagine how many poor tanks and DPS I've upset by letting them fall below half HP while unloading some damage. They'll think that things aren't going very well if they aren't healed up to full health within 10 seconds of damage being taken, even if they don't risk dying.

    I mean, I love a healer adding some DPS just as much as the next person, but it's weirdly uncomfortable at the same time, somehow. -_-
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