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  1. #31
    Player
    Seig345's Avatar
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    Seigyoku Cypher
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 66
    I've played Final Fantasy XIV with a controller since its original launch in 2010. Right now I use a PS4 controller connected to my PC either with a USB cable or through bluetooth.

    So ultimately, my controller setup is the same as if I were on a PS4 with a usb keyboard plugged in. I would definitely recommend investing in a cheap USB keyboard for the PS4 to solve the typing issue. Granted, you'd probably need to be capable of typing while keeping your eyes on the screen, but the UI is rather nice in that if I'm attempting to type something mid-battle (as a healer) and someone takes a big hit, I can press O to back out of text input and react, and resume typing where I left off if another moment presents itself.

    Alternatively, most boss battles are discussed before they're triggered, and I also see a lot of players (myself included) make macros for reminders of certain mechanics that are simply placed on the hotbar somewhere. Considering there's 8 different hotbar settings, 5 of which are static regardless of which class you're on (not even sure about turning on the extra set for holding L2 and R2 at the same time, might add even more static ones), you could easily set up macros for greetings, parting words, congratulations, apologies, mechanic reminders, and just about anything else. Obviously there's always going to be the occasional unique situation that isn't covered, but it would minimize your need to type while keeping you capable of communicating (and quickly).
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  2. #32
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by TemporaryName20190717 View Post
    As a PS4 player everyone would know that I won't be typing/chatting constantly, if at all, as people would know the limitation of the controller in this area, as if you do type then you get abuse for not doing anything and not being quick enough, lose/lose situation.
    Knowing that a player can play on PC with controller and on PS4 with mouse and keyboard, this is not always correct.

    You can say that a controller player is a bit limited to fast chatting. But it have nothing to do with PS4.
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    Last edited by Felis; 08-22-2015 at 06:04 AM.

  3. #33
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    Averax's Avatar
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    Ven Black
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    i just bought a cheapo wireless usb keyboard to talk. It wasn't really necessary while leveling up, but at endgame the need became more apparent that i needed to communicate effectively with others.

    I also invested in a usb hub. So that i could plug in more than my keyboard and my headset into my ps4.

    I have not regretted any of these purchases, and together they evened out at about 25-30 bucks (USD). I recommend the same to you.

    It's not hard to talk on the keyboard while using a controller either, you just type while casting or in between GCDs.
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  4. #34
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    SakuraMidori's Avatar
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    Sakura Kinakina
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by JayCommon View Post
    You can already tell if someone is on PC or console. Click/Highlight any person and Examine them. If they play on console, it will show your PSN ID name under your Avatar's picture. If there is no ID there, they are on PC.

    That being said, you can get a keyboard that works just fine on PS4 for less than $10. "Being on console" is not a good reason to not communicate in a game that requires it for high tier content.
    I never see this i mean most high tier runs i see in party finder always end with must have mumble. That said lol why talk? 90% of my time playing this i never say much and if i need to real fast my controller gets it done :P most runs {start} hiiii hello hi there {end} bye have a good day
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  5. #35
    Player Nadirah's Avatar
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    Nadirah Serenity
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Martin_Arcainess View Post
    Slow reaction? The beautiful way the controller is set up A console user can react as quick as any PC user the only down side is target select with a gazzlion adds on scren but even then you would aoe spam them.
    Targeting is pretty crappy even with a PC when there's a million things on screen.

    True, but nowadays people want TeamSpeak, Mumble, Skype, etc.
    Smartphone.

    My FC has a few members on PS4. They use their phones to get on Vent. Being on a console is no longer an excuse for not using VOIP.

    And the Vent app is free. Think the Mumble one is too. Official Teamspeak one you have to pay for but it wouldnt' surprise me if there's a third party one for it.
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    Last edited by Nadirah; 08-22-2015 at 04:01 PM.

  6. #36
    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Oh my god no, the last thing we need more of in this game is an easier way to discriminate against other players.
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  7. #37
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    SasukeUchiha81's Avatar
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    Naori U'chiha
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    Faerie
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    White Mage Lv 80
    I play on PC but I still play with a controller. So I do Dual wield I guess u can say. <3 and Glamour cures all! XD.. And even though I play on a high end PC I would never discriminate against console player.. I have all the consoles myself That being said I do wish they'd do away with the PS3 version as it is holding back a lot of things. But I will not discriminate against the players who play on it while im in the game.. Ill take that up with Developers lol
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    Last edited by SasukeUchiha81; 08-22-2015 at 10:17 AM.

  8. #38
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    Jim Berry
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    Malboro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    Well tbh, every console user on FFXIV should make the small investment and buy a cheap USB keyboard. Communication is important in an MMO.

    Also you can hide earrings with glamor. emporers new *item* makes stuff invisible.
    True, but nowadays people want TeamSpeak, Mumble, Skype, etc.
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  9. #39
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    Ven Black
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Berry View Post
    True, but nowadays people want TeamSpeak, Mumble, Skype, etc.
    "Hey random pug group, skype w/ me."
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  10. #40
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    Lulumia Lumia
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    Machinist Lv 80
    The only time I've seen a major problem with using a controller over mouse and keyboard, was in situations where there are many adds, and it's smart to focus on only 1 of them.

    For instance, my Static had to change their strategy for A2S, because the member we first had in the Gobwalker was having great difficulty selecting the Bomb at times. We swapped over to me, with my mouse-born ability to click the hate table and the bomb's model, and it went much more smoothly in that regard. I haven' noticed any other noteworthy disadvantages.
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