PLD/DRK Crossclasses

[Dante_V]

I'm actually happy with the cross class skills I have as DRK. Bloodbath with dark arts soul eater is love and foresight makes a decent gap filler in a cool down rotation to ease up on damage from auto attacks. Keen flurry would seem kind of redundant with dark dance and honestly without dark dance the parry proc moves pretty much procs on cooldown most of the time if not before.

[Sapphidia]

Well the OT role is entirely the reason you'd have BFB. It would give Paladins and Dark Knights a small boost in Burst DPS when they're able to DPS safely without being mauled, just to give them that small nudge towards Warriors who are currently the defacto OT of choice in pretty much every situation. It's only a wipe waiting to happen if the tank is bad and presses it at the wrong time, and I don't think you can restrict a skill from a class based on that.

[fm_fenrir]

Well the OT role is entirely the reason you'd have BFB. It would give Paladins and Dark Knights a small boost in Burst DPS when they're able to DPS safely without being mauled, just to give them that small nudge towards Warriors who are currently the defacto OT of choice in pretty much every situation. It's only a wipe waiting to happen if the tank is bad and presses it at the wrong time, and I don't think you can restrict a skill from a class based on that.

Unfortunately, you have to balance the game around bads when you consider the tank role, because a tank that decides he wants to burn B4B as MT is going to wreck a run by instantly disintegrating and taking the healers with him. Yes, good/smart tanks will use B4B appropriately, but think about how many awful DRKs there were, and now imagine they had B4B on top of that.

MORE DPS! WAIT WHY AM I DEAD? - every tank forum thread after making B4B available to DRK and PLD

[Brannigan]

Unfortunately, you have to balance the game around bads when you consider the tank role

No you don't. Healers can screw up just as badly with bad Cleric Stance usage. Tanks who die instantly when they use Blood for Blood would eventually figure out how to read their tooltips or be told by someone who can. Not that it matters since they're really unlikely to change what classes paladin or dark knight draw from. The ultimate prize for cross class would really be rogue, though. Shade Shift, Goad, and (for paladin) Death Blossom would be ridiculous.

However, I think rather than changing the classes that are drawn from, I think either changing the offered skills or altering the skills that are offered is more likely. A 30 second Fracture would help both paladin and dark knight, and I could see them enabling Esuna for use by paladin as well. However, outside of Stoneskin, paladin's cross class has always been pretty garbage. I wouldn't get your hopes up.

[Walluh]

I'd love me some invigorate and keen flurry for reprisal/low blow on my DRK.

[Nadirah]

It's bad enough that every melee dps needs lancer to 34... Tanks needing it too would just be suck.

[Galgarion]

It's bad enough that every melee dps needs lancer to 34... Tanks needing it too would just be suck.

I'd still take it. Unlimited TP? Sheeeeeeeyet bro, sign me the F*** up!

[PogueX]

Does anyone know if Riot blade can be used as a cross ability and if so is it useful for DRK since can give MP?

[Erit]

Does anyone know if Riot blade can be used as a cross ability and if so is it useful for DRK since can give MP?

It cannot; even if it could, you lack Fast Blade to trigger the combo, and so you end up in the same situation where Savage Blade is: "Why is this here again?"

Besides that, Dark Knights have two Syphon Strike combos and no real reason to use any non-Syphon combo after level 38. The only times a Dark Knight should be out of mana are when they do something wrong, when chain-stuns come out just as they activate Blood Price (such as White Mages against the last wave of enemies before Nidhogg), or when the raid forgets how to manage emnity and everyone rips for their efforts.

[Kumori_Kumo]

I'm indifferent on the larger point, but bad players are no reason to restrict abilities. Warrior has Raw Intuition, which will kill you WAY faster than B4B if you're stupid, yet we get that. There's really no argument there.