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  1. #21
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    Sacerdos's Avatar
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    Xinni Sacerdos
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    This is why I always que on my BLM/SMN.

    5-10 min queue, but it consistently takes 20-25 minutes instead of 40 minutes when I get bad dps on my SCH.
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  2. #22
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    Xenos74's Avatar
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    Feris Vessali
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    Excalibur
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Drako View Post
    Also I thought SE had put into the duty system that there was like specific slots available for ranged dps, and then all other dps or something weird like that. I forget all the details, but I thought it was setup so you couldn't get 2 Ranged unless there were some circumstance like really long wait times or something. Any remember that? Wish I had a link.
    I believe you're thinking about pvp, wolves den.

    I think TC is most likely complaining that it wasn't just a case of bad players being bad, but also getting a combination of "low" dps jobs for the duty roulette. That's not to say that all brds or MCH are bad dps, could just be laziness or they haven't adjusted to play style change of gauss barrel/minuet

    I always bring my sch to expert roulette just to avoid such situations (bad players or whatever ) since I can dps practically the entire time unless I get a really squishy tank
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  3. #23
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    dayspring83's Avatar
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    E'lir Dayspring
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur_Rivendell View Post
    took 40 min without any KO

    twice LB at last boss

    OH MY FK GOD!!!!!!!
    Sounds like you shoulda chipped in and helped DPS then....

    I dont think I've ever had a 40min EXP Roulette run...maybe if there are a couple of wipes but still. If no wipes and it took 40 minutes means you were just as bad in my opinion...
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  4. #24
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    Kaurie Lorhart
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    Leviathan
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Sacerdos View Post
    This is why I always que on my BLM/SMN.

    5-10 min queue, but it consistently takes 20-25 minutes instead of 40 minutes when I get bad dps on my SCH.
    Exactly the same here! I used to queue with SCH/PLD for queue times, but realized that it's actually faster to wait in the DPS queue :|
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  5. #25
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    Nixxa's Avatar
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    Character
    Ayreon Athantos
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Sacerdos View Post
    This is why I always que on my BLM/SMN.

    5-10 min queue, but it consistently takes 20-25 minutes instead of 40 minutes when I get bad dps on my SCH.
    What? o.O How is that possible? D: Even when I have dps that are brain dead bad when I'm on sch runs usually go faster. On bosses I can usually pull out an extra 500-600 dps, but on trash pulls I'm usually well over 1-1300, even if they are doing very badly a good sch can overcompensate big time! I've never had a run where I was on sch take longer except when I run on smn, because smn AoE is the most broken thing ever ._. but sch dps is solid enough to be equivalent to a third dps in the group with little to no effort so even at a groups worst with a sch it should be an average timed run. With a group of competent dps/tank schs can speed up runs tremendously, don't underestimate ussssss! xD /flex
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  6. #26
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    Inferiae's Avatar
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    Yumiya Nagatsuki
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    BRD here. Did 49% of all the damage in Neverreap by myself. Run took a little over 20 minutes. Your point?

    As a matter of fact, you can change this thread's title for whatever jobs you want and it'd still be irrelevant.
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  7. #27
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    ThirdChild_ZKI's Avatar
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    Character
    Lace Valeria
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    Jenova
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Fastest Fractal run I ever had was double MCH, and this was right before Esoterics were a thing. I was one of them.

    Fastest Aery I've had was with a MCH while I was on my DRG (who I must say was AMAZING in both speed and DPS. I'd have her kittens.)

    Plenty of GOOD players who know how to use the tools that a Job is (and nothing more). Please take a moment to learn just how good the tools those three jobs actually have are,
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  8. #28
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    Zer0's Avatar
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    Ameline Rose
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by Torunya View Post
    I give up. All it takes is one bad player playing as MCH or BRD and all of a sudden every MCH and BRD are terrible? Like people already stated: Bad players do exist.

    Believe it or not, good MCH and BRD's do exist too.

    /overprotective >_>

    *breathes*
    There is a long running history with MMO's that everyone who plays physical ranged is a terrible player. Regardless that there is no documented proof that worse players play physical ranged then others. The stigma is still there. Bard will be called a terribad long before and more often then any other job. Machinist I'm not sure, never tried or encountered them at my level.
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  9. #29
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    Lindis Hrafnvandrar
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    Ragnarok
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Zer0 View Post
    There is a long running history with MMO's that everyone who plays physical ranged is a terrible player. Regardless that there is no documented proof that worse players play physical ranged then others. The stigma is still there. Bard will be called a terribad long before and more often then any other job. Machinist I'm not sure, never tried or encountered them at my level.
    Before Machinist got buffed they were the highlight of hate threads for a while, these days not so much. But this just makes me sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iagainsti View Post
    Where's my daily baked deliciousness, Toruyna?

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    Lanfear Sessurea
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 60
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