Any reason to use Stone II now?

[Fevelle]

Hi. I was a main WHM before Heavensward but had to change accounts and I'm levelling again, so I didn't had the chance to test any of the new skills. However, I have one question.

Is there any reason to cast Stone 2 after getting Stone 3? Usually, Stone 1 has its use when soloing, because you can heavy the target, so while he gets closer you can DoT with Aero 2 and Aero and then start spamming Stone 2.

Is there any utility to Stone 2 or is it going to be a wasted skill now that we have an updated version of it?

[Rox_Unlimited]

No. Just use it if your level synced.

[Risvertasashi]

No. Just use it if your level synced.

Or OOM. But yes, Stone III is a straight up higher potency replacement.

[Rox_Unlimited]

Or OOM. But yes, Stone III is a straight up higher potency replacement.

Shouldn't run OOM it's not too expensive for the MP we have. And proper use Shroud of Saints and Assize should leave you with more than enough. I combo presence of mind with Stone III for burst and then pop shotguns when about 75%

[Lorielle]

Shouldn't run OOM it's not too expensive for the MP we have. And proper use Shroud of Saints and Assize should leave you with more than enough. I combo presence of mind with Stone III for burst and then pop shotguns when about 75%

Raid stuff. It hurts to try to DPS during A3S adds since I'm starting to get pretty low on Mana at that point. Though Stone 1 helps~

[Kietsu]

Same reason you'd use Ruin or Malefic: Better mana efficiency.

[FoxyAreku]

Same reason you'd use Ruin or Malefic: Better mana efficiency.

That only really matters if you're fighting some boss FATE that takes three years to down, though.

[Raminax]

Stone II may cost less MP than Stone III, but it is not more MP efficient than Stone III.

Stone II
170 Potency/442 MP cost=0.384 Potency per MP spent.

Stone III
210 Potency/530 MP cost=0.396 Potency per MP spent.

As has been mentioned, the only reason to use Stone II over Stone III is if you're level synced down to below 54.

[Kietsu]

Stone II may cost less MP than Stone III, but it is not more MP efficient than Stone III.

Stone II
170 Potency/442 MP cost=0.384 Potency per MP spent.

Stone III
210 Potency/530 MP cost=0.396 Potency per MP spent.

As has been mentioned, the only reason to use Stone II over Stone III is if you're level synced down to below 54.

...holy crap that's dumb. I don't play WHM so I hadn't realized those were the numbers on the skills.

For comparison, Astrologians get the following:

Malefic
150 Potency / 353 MP = 0.425 Potency per MP

Malefic II
200 Potency / 530 MP = 0.377 Potency per MP

Scholars get the following:

Ruin
80 Potency / 176 MP = 0.455 Potency per MP

Broil
170 Potency / 530 MP = 0.321 Potency per MP

So... yeah. But for WHM, apparently you might as well just macro:

/aerror off
/ac "Stone III" <t>
/ac "Stone II" <t>

[mp-please]

...holy crap that's dumb. I don't play WHM so I hadn't realized those were the numbers on the skills.

For comparison, Astrologians get the following:

Malefic
150 Potency / 353 MP = 0.425 Potency per MP

Malefic II
200 Potency / 530 MP = 0.377 Potency per MP

Scholars get the following:

Ruin
80 Potency / 176 MP = 0.455 Potency per MP

Broil
170 Potency / 530 MP = 0.321 Potency per MP

So... yeah. But for WHM, apparently you might as well just macro:

/aerror off
/ac "Stone III" <t>
/ac "Stone II" <t>

That's because broil/malefic II are lv 54 skills and ruin/malefic are lv 1 skills, meanwhile white mage has stone I at lv 1, stone II at lv 22 and stone III at lv 54. To make a proper comparison to sch/ast you need to compare stone I to stone III

Stone I
140 potency / 353 MP = 0.396 potency per MP

Stone III
210 potency / 530 MP = 0.396 potency per MP (now that's hilarious)