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    Eloah's Avatar
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    Toki Tsuchimi
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    When Friends, or you, become an Elitist.

    Whether this is your first MMO or not, we've all encountered Elitists, what fun, lol. Anyway I'm curious when you discovered that a friend you play with, or even possibly yourself, became or were becoming an Elitist?

    I had a friend recently tell me that me that Elitists are born when players let gear get to their heads. Suddenly because you don't have the best gear you "suck" and they don't want to play with you. They can't tolerate the smallest of failures. And they complain if they aren't rewarded for being douches, lol

    To be clear, everyone complains and gets frustrated at certain things, it's only natural. I'm referring to those people who have a sense of entitlement, that they are the very best and should be rewarded for everything they do.

    So I'm curious, when did you notice someone turning into an Elitist, or when did you become one?

    EDIT: Okay, some people have taken this post in different directions. I just wanted to clarify what I meant, when I said becoming and Elitist. While yes, individually, we all have our own levels of elitism, there is a definitive general connotation for the word,

    Elitist: A person who believes that they are superior to others (and thus deserve favored status) because of their intellect, social status, wealth, or other factors.

    This term can apply to both new and old players, nice or rude, though usually older, ruder players. I wasn't only refering to players at endgame content, with the best gear. I meant all players at any level. Whether that player is super nice and wants to be carried or super rude and doesn't wanna help newbs, doesn't matter, both feel entitled and are classified as Elitists.

    I hope this clears some things up.
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    Last edited by Eloah; 07-28-2015 at 09:01 PM.
    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.

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    Risvertasashi's Avatar
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    There are so many definitions the word might start competing with "hacker" for how meaningless it is.

    That said I'm probably one. I try not to be a jerk. But if you're wiping to faust enrage on A1 normal, or standing in orbs and dying on the last Library boss for the 4th time now, or auto attacking on that CT boss, I'm probably venting somewhere.
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    Rena Ryuugu
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    I think crafters are more elitist than anyone, even if I bring all the mats and shards with the request of normal quality they want an absurd amount of gil. Least by the definition of wanting to be rewarded for everything :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    I'm referring to those people who have a sense of entitlement
    There should be a name for people who go around the forums saying everything is "entitlement". xD

    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaFox View Post
    I think crafters are more elitist than anyone, even if I bring all the mats and shards with the request of normal quality they want an absurd amount of gil. Least by the definition of wanting to be rewarded for everything :P
    Well if the craft you wanted is something like the Thav Dress, where the mats were costing something like 10mil+ to make and the crafted has to unlocked master book 3 to make them and gear up some, you should expect to pay a price proportionate to the cost of mats and MB value of the finished item. In the above example a crafter asking 500k for the craft would very reasonable in my opinion.

    Far too many people think crafters magically unlock recipes and gear up without it costing anything (8 crafts geared and master books unlocked in 3.0 cost me around 120mil), so you should be able to tip them 5k for the highest tier crafts, this is not the case.
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    Last edited by scarebearz; 07-28-2015 at 04:07 AM.

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    Yolanda Freebush
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    or even possibly yourself, became or were becoming an Elitist?
    The day I recognize that I have become, or someone calls me an "elitist" is the day I hang it up, as I am no longer gaming, the apocalypse has arrived.
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    Can we just scrap "Elitism" and "Toxicity" from our collective vocabulary? They're essentially meaningless at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malevicton View Post
    Can we just scrap "Elitism" and "Toxicity" from our collective vocabulary? They're essentially meaningless at this point.
    Toxicity = System of a Down pops in my head ALL THE TIME. Or Toxic = A landfill and/or a Koffing Pokemon using Toxic. I learned of this playing FF14. I was never a big mmo player.
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    Why would you pay for a game, to pay an RMT, to pay other players to play the game for you?

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    T'aretha Tyaka
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    If I spend 20 hours progressing/ learning some content I want to stick to people who are as experienced as me to actually not waste those 20 hours. Some people call it elitism, if it is elitism, so be it.
    No one has the duty to pull every random person trough content. To me it seems more like common sense.

    Not replying to OP, but to the word - elitism.

    Quote Originally Posted by Malevicton View Post
    Can we just scrap "Elitism" and "Toxicity" from our collective vocabulary? They're essentially meaningless at this point.
    This. Everyone imagines something else under these words.
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    Last edited by StrejdaTom; 07-28-2015 at 04:44 AM.

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    Khalith Mateo
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    I've had a friend that became an elitist. He became very rude and insulting to anyone that didn't perform perfectly up to his standards, it progressively got worse and worse over time until I finally got sick of it and I just called him out on it. I said "dude, you've become really elitist lately, you have this superiority complex and I'm getting rather sick of it" and proceeded to explain how bad he was getting and gave several examples. He fell silent then after a few moments he said to me, "you know, you're right. Man I didn't even realize how bad I was getting." After that his attitude changed almost entirely, it was really nice.
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    I'm apparently an elitist simply for putting in effort and expecting others to do the same.
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