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  1. #61
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    Apricoth's Avatar
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    Apricoth Daenya
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    Excalibur
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    Rogue Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
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    I am not doing this. The way I melee is I will target the same target the tank has targeted (thank you t t ) and stay on that unless another mob has lower hp. I will jump to that low hp mob, help finish and then back to what the tank has targeted. In the case of order of priority of problematic mobs (like caster mobs) I will attack first and hope the tank is doing the same, to get rid of that nuisance mob and then back to my original tactics. And so what if the smn dot has a few more seconds left on the low hp mob? Why should someone feel their dot is wasted if the dot is not allowed to finish the mob off? Really?
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  2. #62
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    SuperZay's Avatar
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    Violet Flower
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    Cerberus
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    Arcanist Lv 23
    Quote Originally Posted by Kitano123 View Post
    Wow so many bad players in this thread.

    If you're killing the mob with lowest hp and ignoring the ones with high hp then your extending the fight duration. It doesnt matter how many mobs there are left if the tank/healer runs out of cd's to use thats what makes it hard.
    They probably prefer long, dragggging pulls which I see quite often lately.
    Not sure what all the posts about 'aggro' are talking about. When I tank, nobody can steal aggro from me. Nobody. Aggro management is a tank issue.
    Well, if you get a beginner tank you should probably 'hold' your DPS or you'll rip off aggro but this thread is not about bad tanking.
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  3. #63
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    Twilite's Avatar
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    Miranda Madison
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    Twintania
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    I prefer you attack the one I got marked.

    I built a shyte ton of threat on it and then start rotating. If you're wailing on the unmarked one I'm hitting, you *will* pull hate.
    And I am usually the only one attacking the marked targets(forgoing AOE until it's dead). If you're not using your AOE threat skill, then yes I will pull hate, which will unfortunately cause me to drop out of AOE. Ultimately that makes the encounter longer. However for that to happen, you'd have to be pretty undergeared because most tanks only need to do their AOE threats once or twice and I can flare all day and not get aggro. The ones I often see attacking willy nilly are NINs but like I said, I don't care what they do.
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    Last edited by Twilite; 08-21-2015 at 02:39 PM.

  4. #64
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    Ichi Greyfrost
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    I like how when tanks do multiple group pulls (In my mind, this is where the tank is asking me to do AoE stuffs), then I proceeded to do the AoE, and realized the tank isn't doing any AoE enmity.

    And he's all like, "BLM????????"
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  5. #65
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    SuperZay's Avatar
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    Violet Flower
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    I prefer you attack the one I got marked.

    I built a shyte ton of threat on it and then start rotating. If you're wailing on the unmarked one I'm hitting, you *will* pull hate.
    You DO know tanks have powerful AOE threat generating skills, right? Right?...
    And yes, marking is so 2013.
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  6. #66
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    SasukeUchiha81's Avatar
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    Kaori Ayako
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    Exodus
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Im am going to have to agree with SuperZay on this.. I do see what he is getting at. (Who does mark targets anymore anyway?) On my tank classes, PLD 51 DRK 55, if u give me 5 seconds it doesn't matter what you hit or in what order, you are NOT taking it from me. When I do DD on my NIN (55) if I see DoTs up there ill leave it and go to the next with a bit of life left on it for the DoTs to finish off.
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  7. #67
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    Snuggles Doombringer
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 80
    This is assuming the melee has no idea what they are doing and single targeting an easily AoEable pack.

    Not using AoE rotations is ridiculous, melee or not. Even though they have the worst AoE in the game, a NIN using Doton+DB is still higher DPS on more than 3 mobs than single targeting.

    Better topic: Dear melee DPS: learn how to AoE and make a reasonable contribution to the run.
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  8. #68
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    Ichi Greyfrost
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    Quote Originally Posted by SnugglesD View Post
    This is assuming the melee has no idea what they are doing and single targeting an easily AoEable pack.

    Not using AoE rotations is ridiculous, melee or not. Even though they have the worst AoE in the game, a NIN using Doton+DB is still higher DPS on more than 3 mobs than single targeting.

    Better topic: Dear melee DPS: learn how to AoE and make a reasonable contribution to the run.
    This, I'm a DRG and I spam Doom Spike on >=4 mobs.

    Unless the run strictly requires the group to kill 1 by 1 ASAP cuz dem mechanics.
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  9. #69
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    Aomine1992's Avatar
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    Daiki Sejuro
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    Behemoth
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Greyfrost View Post
    This, I'm a DRG and I spam Doom Spike on >=4 mobs.

    Unless the run strictly requires the group to kill 1 by 1 ASAP cuz dem mechanics.
    Hmmm I think this is more so conditional as DRG I do maybe 1 doom spike because I'm killing way faster with single target dmg yea I mix it up obviously but melee aoes are disgusting in dmg and take a lot of TP you will have better luck waiting for dragon fly dive lol so I think it's all about the style of play imo.

    To OP the thread kind of started contradicting itself a lot of ppl agree with you saying it moves things along but the same could be said about doing the opposite regardless the mobs are still dying at the same time, if the melee are attacking the lower health or the higher health mob it doesn't matter unless one of the DPS dmg is lacking....this is all just my opinion in my experience cause I only see slow runs with under geared DPS lol
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  10. #70
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Atomos
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Please no.

    My cooldowns don't last 10 minutes. They last 10 seconds, 20 seconds. Do AOE all you want, but please put your primary target on the marked enemy or on the most dangerous/irritating ones (i.e. those that do party-wide AOE and those that do frequent telegraphed AOE).
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    “There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.”
    ― Ernest Hemingway

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