Why does everyone abuse the warrior of light?

[Kallera]

/sigh

At times like this I wish WoW wasn't as successful as it was. It cast a long shadow on the genre as it somehow became gospel that WoW-style MMOs are the only kind of MMO.

That's odd, cause both wow and everquest allowed players to kill people that other mmos wouldn't let you, plot be damned.

Round up an alliance, and you too can overthrow a city's eternal ruler for a time, you might even get an achievement for it!

Imagine folks being able to take out yellowjackets to get quests and hang out with the serpent reavers, and you have part of the idea.

[BloodPact]

/sigh

At times like this I wish WoW wasn't as successful as it was. It cast a long shadow on the genre as it somehow became gospel that WoW-style MMOs are the only kind of MMO.

Don't know or care about World of Warcraft. Never played it. But if it was an influence for eliminating running to a (???) spot for 20 minutes, getting a one line message of collecting an item and then making the trip back to the NPC for another twenty minute run then it's okay in my book. It's cool if people consider auto-run to be part of the content of a game; I don't.

[Bishop81]

That's odd, cause both wow and everquest allowed players to kill people that other mmos wouldn't let you, plot be damned.

Round up an alliance, and you too can overthrow a city's eternal ruler for a time, you might even get an achievement for it!

Imagine folks being able to take out yellowjackets to get quests and hang out with the serpent reavers, and you have part of the idea.

HA! Within 15 mins the said leader will respawn and nothing changes.

Anyway, the point I'm trying to make is, with themepark MMOs the plot is predetermined. You have zero say in your overall destiny.

Nothing wrong with a linear narrative, especially when well done with a good story line, but you do end up as an errand boy with no will of his own.

[Lone-wolfe-02]

I've always figured people who make these complaints must be really fun to hang out with in person.

"Hey, man, could you grab me a soda while you're up?"
"AM I YOUR SLAVE!? STOP ABUSING ME! I DON'T HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING YOU TELL ME TO DO!"

"Hey, here's 40 bucks, could you run out and get me some nails so I can finish up this porch?"
"GO TO HELL, I'M NOT YOUR SERVANT!"

"Hey, could you pick up this stuff for the party while I finish setting up here?"
"I HAVE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO DO THAN PICK UP YOUR PARTY SUPPLIES, LIKE SIT HERE AND WAIT FOR IT TO START!"

She's a friend asking you to do a favor while she put on some finishing touches on the bit she had. And she paid you for it.

To be fair most people probably don't get asked for favours multiple times in one day. I'm not even her friend i could care less for lalas.

[Kallera]

I've always figured people who make these complaints must be really fun to hang out with in person.

"Hey, man, could you grab me a soda while you're up?"
"AM I YOUR SLAVE!? STOP ABUSING ME! I DON'T HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING YOU TELL ME TO DO!"

"Hey, here's 40 bucks, could you run out and get me some nails so I can finish up this porch?"
"GO TO HELL, I'M NOT YOUR SERVANT!"

"Hey, could you pick up this stuff for the party while I finish setting up here?"
"I HAVE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO DO THAN PICK UP YOUR PARTY SUPPLIES, LIKE SIT HERE AND WAIT FOR IT TO START!"...

Actually I had a real life occurence of this. The resentment usually doesn't come at being given chores at all, a lot of us would repeayedly go out of our way for friends and family. it comes when you see someone as ONLY a source of chores, particularly the same chore again and again.

Some people warm up to doing things for certain npcs, others see them as mini Minfillias, a !-shaped lever you pull for your gil pellets.

[F_Maximillian]

It seems like for the most part the other characters in the story do a lot of behind the scenes or logistics work like others have said. However, it's very nice when there are story characters that aid you in some sort of combat. Sadly, it seems like the ones who actually stick their necks out for you in the thick of battle don't seem to live very long. I have a feeling poor Alphinaud's days are numbered....

[Ryaz]

I wish games took cues from more than just WoW. The Secret World, for instance, let you turn in quests in the field, making for much less running back and forth.

Not to mention the mission variety in that game blows other MMOs away. You have your typical kill quests, sure, but also investigation quests where you have to use your brain and sabotage missions which are more about stealth and strategy. Why more games don't follow suit is beyond me. I guess because it would take more work to make a nice variety of fun quests than it would to make the same type of quests over and over.

[Sandpark]

Ok I am level 57

and halfway through with the heavensward quests (or further) and we just found Y'shtola alive. Tataru is happy about it and says she has a suprise prepared for her and she tells ME to go grab the items from two guilds in Gridania. Why am I compelled to do this work? It's HER surprise why can't she do it herself.

I just want to tell all these people who tell me to fetch stuff that they can perfectly do themselves go do it yourself! What upset me about that quest is that she is supposed to be one of my fellow scions so why am I doing her chores?

You can't tell them anything because The Warrior Of Light is mute. Maybe you could write them a letter?

[Kallera]

You can't tell them anything because The Warrior Of Light is mute. Maybe you could write them a letter?

You are not mute.

There are some points where people wanted some agency. They brought up a similar question in the live letter, and square notes that while its putting in more choices for HW, knowing when and how is not the easiest process, especially since these are cutscenes that may or may not be replayable.

I do get the sentiment of wanting choices though, I voiced the same in 2.55, and appreciate forming Kallera's responses and attitude much more than reading how i supposedly felt in The Unending Journey.

[Jim_Berry]

Oboro get's abused lol...