PLEASE change level requirement to whisper ....

[Drakeos]

This would stop gil spamers from whispering me EVERY damn min of my game life please fix this

[Nadirah]

No it wouldn't. Or did you miss the armies of lv 50 blm bots?

[Blood-Aki]

No it wouldn't. Or did you miss the armies of lv 50 blm bots?

To be fair those are their "farmers" they won't risk sending tells with those because they actually take time for them to replace, Unlike level 1 bots that are just erased/banned and replaced quickly after. it would certainly hurt them and i fully agree with this.

I mean let's be real here, What level 1 player would just randomly send tells to the entire server. constantly. This is already an obvious sign. Of course they will just level to the level needed, then spam but it would slow them down a bit since they have to actually level bots for it.

[Niwashi]

To be fair those are their "farmers" they won't risk sending tells with those because they actually take time for them to replace, Unlike level 1 bots that are just erased/banned and replaced quickly after. it would certainly hurt them and i fully agree with this.

They wouldn't send advertising spam with their farming bots because those bots are accumulating the gil for them to sell. They don't want that gil lost when their spam bots are banned, so the two types are handled through separate accounts. I don't think Nadirah was suggesting they'd actually use the same bots, just that having farming bots proves they're quite capable of automating bots that will level up.

Currently RMT spam-bots are left at level 1 only because they have no particular reason for making them higher level, but if they did have a reason (like for instance the OP's suggestion being implemented) then the RMT companies would simply level all their spam-bots up to whatever level they need them to be. We'd still have just as much spam coming from just as many bots, the only difference being that those bots would be level 10 or 15 or whatever instead of level 1.

Then won't RMT just go back to spamming friend requests?

Friend requests aren't as effective as actual messages, since the only actual content passed with it is their character's name. They used that when it was possible to do so with free trial accounts, but it stopped when the Free Trial restrictions were updated to block friend requests. Now the only place Free Trial accounts can spam is the /say channel. Everything else needs a paid account, which they focus on their most effective spam method: /tell.

[Lone-wolfe-02]

Sounds like a great idea to me and what new player uses tells anyways?

[Devils_Lawyer]

Not sure if this will help, when Aion went f2p they made you unable to communicate thru whispers until you were lvl 20 and even then there were still plenty of spammers to go around.

In the end the companies that do this runs it as a bussiness, to them this will just mean a little more work but work that they will do to continue making profit.

[Giantbane]

I'd really just like to have a setting where I only get tells from people on my friends list, linkshells, free company or players i'm currently in a party or alliance with.

That's if I can't have a right click > report RMT that reports their account to SE, removes all tells from them from my chat log, and blacklists their entire acct for at least a week.

[Leshpar]

Not sure if this will help, when Aion went f2p they made you unable to communicate thru whispers until you were lvl 20 and even then there were still plenty of spammers to go around.

In the end the companies that do this runs it as a bussiness, to them this will just mean a little more work but work that they will do to continue making profit.

The difference here is that FF14 is not F2P. When you have to buy the game and get a level 20 character banned for RMT it hurts. Now you have to buy a new game copy and make a new account. Its not just as simple and making a new free account.

I fully support making it at least level 20 before whispers are unlocked. Heck, you could even make a quick quest for it like everything else has. You'd have to whisper an NPC something you can't afford to have anyone else overhear you say.

[azlewood]

then make it that you can only whisper friends.

[Nadirah]

then make it that you can only whisper friends.

It's bad enough I can only send mail to people on my friends list.

FC officers with full friends lists means I can't send them mail because they don't have room on their friends list. FC leader lives in a different time zone, and sometimes isn't on when I am. Can't mail him, there's not enough room on his friends list for the entire FC and stuff.

With the limited numbers on the list, this has to be the stupidest idea I've seen.