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  1. #31
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    viion's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    The first mission alone took me that long (which is included in that time).

    The cash came in handy.

    Honestly speaking, the lvl1 leves only slowed me down. I should have saved them for crafting.
    You added in the first mission or you just talking about the start where you fight something?

    I am also including that, and I've made my fair share of lv 13 chars, search "Virtue" on besaid lol, each one took about 30 mins from Creation > 13 with leves. Though I could understand wanting to maybe save leves for crafting, but you get better money from dow and most people would do them. I dont know if they got nerfed now, this was back before 1.18 haha so could be all different now and you get nothing from leves, im talkin about when the tutorial leve would hit you lv 4 instantly, next lv 7, next 10!
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    At higher levels, yes. The mechanics definitely change as you level up.

    I'd save them for later, lvl10 or 20 perhaps.
    That doesn't really seem to make a lot of sense though. Wouldn't you want the solo leves to be at low levels so that people can actually learn how they work, learn their jobs a bit, and understand the mechanics of group battles and what not? Still seems like a system that isn't working properly if you ask me.
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  3. #33
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    You added in the first mission or you just talking about the start where you fight something?

    I am also including that, and I've made my fair share of lv 13 chars, search "Virtue" on besaid lol, each one took about 30 mins from Creation > 13 with leves. Though I could understand wanting to maybe save leves for crafting, but you get better money from dow and most people would do them. I dont know if they got nerfed now, this was back before 1.18 haha so could be all different now and you get nothing from leves, im talkin about when the tutorial leve would hit you lv 4 instantly, next lv 7, next 10!
    They were massively nerfed. Leve mobs give about a quarter of the XP that they did before. I did 4 r1 leves starting at rank 1. I made it just past rank 4 when I finished... over an hour later. That just doesn't seem right to me.
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  4. #34
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    Kanikou Escaflowne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartel View Post
    They were massively nerfed. Leve mobs give about a quarter of the XP that they did before. I did 4 r1 leves starting at rank 1. I made it just short of rank 4 when I finished... over an hour later. That just doesn't seem right to me.
    Funny enough, aside as they say "easy mode" games this is actually correct pacing when compared to other MMOs. Many MMOs out there have xp rates that hit the millions till next level. So going from say, 1-20 in 5 hours with 7 million TNL, is about on par with how low/slow Xp TNL in XIV is.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    You added in the first mission or you just talking about the start where you fight something?
    The one where you got go goldsmith, mining, gladiators guild, escort etc.

    im talkin about when the tutorial leve would hit you lv 4 instantly, next lv 7, next 10!
    Nah. That was too fast really. I liked the speed at which I was progressing. The downsides were no chains, no links, pure grinding so it wasn't too exciting. Got some mats and made myself some sheepskin cestis however!
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  6. #36
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    Prepatch, 4 leves would usually get me from r1 to r9 or somewhere close.

    Now the only leve I think worth doing is the one that rewards 5 potions. They come in handy.

    Edit: Talking about rank 1 & tut leves.. just to clarify
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    Funny enough, aside as they say "easy mode" games this is actually correct pacing when compared to other MMOs. Many MMOs out there have xp rates that hit the millions till next level. So going from say, 1-20 in 5 hours with 7 million TNL, is about on par with how low/slow Xp TNL in XIV is.
    Most other games also have content and tons of quests for low level players. The only real content for players up until 15 is the few quests you are able to do and leves or behest. I tried an r1 behest and the rewards were pretty lame. I tried a rank 10 behest and got destroyed at rank 9. Leves at low levels now give considerably less XP. Everything that they did made leveling at low levels take a lot longer, but they haven't added any content in to help make it more enjoyable. It's just a boring, awful grind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartel View Post
    Most other games also have content and tons of quests for low level players. The only real content for players up until 15 is the few quests you are able to do and leves or behest. [. . .] but they haven't added any content in to help make it more enjoyable. It's just a boring, awful grind.
    but oh wait didn't they JUST add a level 15 something in this patch?
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    Every time I visit the lodestone forums now I wind up thinking of the sound of a toddler throwing a tantrum.

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    but oh wait didn't they JUST add a level 15 something in this patch?
    The only real content for players up until 15


    Reading comprehension FTL?
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    I would've done 3 missions in that time. Unless money isn't important, then you can skip them.
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