BLM vs. SMN

[EpicOreo80]

Which is better for magical DPS and why?

[Gooner_iBluAirJGR]

BLM cause Fireballs are the truth.

#BOOM

[Psycofang]

One has to use its brain and deal with things

The other pretends to have to use its brain and mashes death flare.

#thesaltisreal


Anyway they are both good, in a perfect world blm for single target burst and high sustain

Smn would be aoe king with decent sustain damage

Smn sustain in a raid environment is generally easier to keep up and can at times surpass blm due to double dotting.

Smn gets screwed less due to mechanics, moving is nowhere near as punishing and we dont lose 50% of our dps if rng/ team members decides to screw you over with raid mechanics when your swift us used up. Worst possible thingy happen is dropping dots but our "swift" is up every 60 seconds or we might have to death flare a little earlier than usual.

Blm has best burst phase hands down when done right its 5-8k every 2.8 seconds 6 times at the start of most fights, they can do amazing damage but requires alot of fight exp and luck to move as little as possible and when to (not) use buffs and refreshes.

[Sleigh]

SMN has the AoE advantage (best in game) and does great in situations where there's forced mobility you can't necessarily plan for - it's nearly impossible to catch a SMN with his pants down, at worst a DoT is delayed slightly. Also does great in fights with multi-DoTs/some AoE. Good utility with 2m E4E, Supervirus, Res (arguably the weakest of these 3 utility tools). Better LB user.

BLM has the ST advantage by far, the biggest advantage it has and basically the most important difference between them. Apoc and Manaward/wall are nice, arguably up there with 2m E4E and Supervirus in usefulness. Mobility and fight RNG are unkind to 3.0 BLM more than in the past but its supreme numbers when things are going right usually even it out with SMN's slightly lower, more consistent numbers.

Play whichever you want, both are in a great spot for all current content. Could argue either is better in any specific Savage floor (except A2S, can't deny anything about which is superior there), with good points for both sides.

[Bklyn718]

I have both BLM and SMN at lvl 60 i184 and I prefer playing as BLM even though people have so many negative things to say about this class. Both classes are good but I feel like my BLM is more fun to play. I know people complain about the Enochian and Astral Fire timers but I rarely have a hard time keeping them up you just have to know the fight. BLM is just not as simple as it was before 3.0 and requires more skill to play effectively.

[Sunako]

These are only things that matter imo.

BLM
- Do not need "build" their damage as much as smn and good for killing small hp targets
- Better singletarget dps

SMN
- Do not lose dps that much as blm while moving or while in cc or limit break
- Better aoe dps

[Snolily]

I don't think either class is good, and i guess if you didn't play ffxi you wouldn't understand but... Summons in FFXI WERE WAAAAY BETTER AND BIGGER LOL. And blm forget about it... Blm was the bomb, blm burns and the dmg one spell could do was thousands, I think they fucked up on both classes, dots for summoner? Only fire does damage and blizzard gains mp and thunder does a dot LOL!!!! What happened to those classes? Personally {and i know most ppl in this game dont agree and i think thats weird} but i dont think these classes are even worth my time.... Whats exciting about small summons? In FFXI AND FFXV summons are huge. And blm they ruined compared to XI. You could practically solo On blm on XI but i guess that's why they made pussy blm in this game so nobody could solo. In FFXI i had every job to lvl 99 and i guess my favorite job out of them all was summoner but in this game i honestly dont have a favorite and what really pissed me off is when i lvled sch to 50 it said i already had summoner to lvl 50 and i didnt know anything about that job, whats up with that?

[AriaEnia]

You could practically solo On blm on XI but i guess that's why they made pussy blm in this game so nobody could solo.

BLM has infinite MP and huge damage burst, they can also pretty much solo many contents, you don't even have lv 50+ BLM...

I already had summoner to lvl 50 and i didnt know anything about that job, whats up with that?

Because SMN is from ARC.
You haven't even played a SMN, how did you even know the SMN is bad...

[scarebearz]

BLM has infinite MP and huge damage burst, they can also pretty much solo many contents, you don't even have lv 50+ BLM...


Because SMN is from ARC.
You haven't even played a SMN, how did you even know the SMN is bad...

Since when could BLM (or any other class) solo any content worth doing?

[scarebearz]

Could argue either is better in any specific Savage floor (except A2S, can't deny anything about which is superior there), with good points for both sides.

Pretty sure a1s better for SMN, better dps potential, easier kiting of adds.