About bars and controller users

[Ametrine]

I use the extended hotbar mysel. I used two "pages" for all my main combat skills, with the most frequently used set on the first and keep rarely used, "utility" skills on the set for R2+L2.

That way skills I need like sprint, cleric stance, sheild or sword oath, and nocturnal or diurnal sect, but will only use once or twice in an entire instance, are accessible but out of the way. I put my SCH pet actions there, too, otherwise it would be insanely difficult!

[Nicobo]

i don't know if theres a way to adress this qol issue or if it hasn't been suggested, but as heavensward appear new usefull skills that not replace old ones came, meaning that we have to "push" more buttons.

so what i'm asking is that if there any way so that L1 button can be assigned to an additional bar like LB or RT shown in the picture below, or if you could use the buttons to map in normal hot bars, as of rigth now only use for L1 is for auto run and is kinda useless on battles.

http://imgur.com/CKIoqpF

L1 lock the autorun is so important! How come you want to remove it!
During in a battle, range/healer will use it frequently, melee/tank will use it while kiting as well!
unavoidable there are some keys required your left thumb, so at this running moment, L1 autorun allow you free up your left thumb for pressing the up/down/left/right button immediately without stop running^^;

Not to mention out side of battle, while running, flying..etc, you can acess any xhotbar key without stop moving.
Therefore please think of other "uesless" button, but not this very important L1 autorun.

[seida]

L1 lock the autorun is so important!
Therefore please think of other "uesless" button, but not this very important L1 autorun.

Haha, I absolutely hate the autorun! I removed it as soon as I worked out how. I'm adjusting the camera position and zoom constantly, and it would sometimes activate causing me to run into aoes or even off the edge in Titan.

But you can remove it yourself so not sure why it's an issue.

More related to the topic, 2 hotbars plus extended is perfectly useable! I don't think anything needs changing at the moment.

[Nicobo]

Haha, I absolutely hate the autorun! I removed it as soon as I worked out how. I'm adjusting the camera position and zoom constantly, and it would sometimes activate causing me to run into aoes or even off the edge in Titan.

But you can remove it yourself so not sure why it's an issue.

More related to the topic, 2 hotbars plus extended is perfectly useable! I don't think anything needs changing at the moment.

Haha, by the way, FF14 (PS3/PS4) controller default setting is almost same as FF11 (PS2), therefore this default setting (ie. autorun/camera) is like this since year 2001.
Actually I don't find any conflict with the camera zoom, maybe we are using different type of controllers? ^^;

[seida]

Haha, by the way, FF14 (PS3/PS4) controller default setting is almost same as FF11 (PS2), therefore this default setting (ie. autorun/camera) is like this since year 2001.
Actually I don't find any conflict with the camera zoom, maybe we are using different type of controllers? ^^;

It's been like that since 2001... so??

If you press L1 you autorun. You also have to hold L1 to zoom. You don't think this can cause issues if you try to zoom while moving?

Maybe you just never zoom while moving. But for those of us that do, it can be quite inconvenient.

[Nicobo]

...If you press L1 you autorun. You also have to hold L1 to zoom. You don't think this can cause issues if you try to zoom while moving?
Maybe you just never zoom while moving. But for those of us that do, it can be quite inconvenient.

it has no conflict, press L1 once enable autorun, u dont need hold the button, then you still can zoom. tho u may try again and see^^;

[seekified]

To clarify extended crossbars a bit, by default it uses crossbar 8 and you access each half of it with each trigger combo (LT+RT for left half, RT+LT for right half). You need to go into Character Config > Hotbars > Sharing and untick sharing for bar 8, otherwise whatever you put there will show up for all other classes as well.

The way I use it is keep all my main rotation stuff on the main bar, put cooldowns and other less-used skills on bar 8 for use with both triggers, then I've also activated two vertical hotbars and put them next to the crossbar and copy my long cooldowns there so I can easily see when they come off cooldown without switching bars.

Ever since I started using this system, my play is much more fluid and it's easier to react to stuff.

[Sandpark]

To clarify extended crossbars a bit, by default it uses crossbar 8 and you access each half of it with each trigger combo (LT+RT for left half, RT+LT for right half). You need to go into Character Config > Hotbars > Sharing and untick sharing for bar 8, otherwise whatever you put there will show up for all other classes as well.

The way I use it is keep all my main rotation stuff on the main bar, put cooldowns and other less-used skills on bar 8 for use with both triggers, then I've also activated two vertical hotbars and put them next to the crossbar and copy my long cooldowns there so I can easily see when they come off cooldown without switching bars.

Ever since I started using this system, my play is much more fluid and it's easier to react to stuff.

It is pretty fluid. I would like the option I listed earlier to be able to react even faster though since my finger would never leave the analog stick.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3258191

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3258222

[Dante_V]

It is pretty fluid. I would like the option I listed earlier to be able to react even faster though since my finger would never leave the analog stick.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3258191

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3258222

Ive seen you mention this twice so far and as someone who exclusively played melee dps in high end raid content for over a year I have to ask what part about holding in R2 or L2 makes you have to move your thumb from the analog stick?

Assign your attacks to the buttons. The Dpad for the buffs.

[Sandpark]

Ive seen you mention this twice so far and as someone who exclusively played melee dps in high end raid content for over a year I have to ask what part about holding in R2 or L2 makes you have to move your thumb from the analog stick?

Assign your attacks to the buttons. The Dpad for the buffs.

It's either move a finger on the hand controlling left analog or reaching over with the right hand. Even reaching over for buffs is less optimal than strictly analogs and face buttons.