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  1. #11
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    Risvertasashi's Avatar
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Ultros
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormfur View Post
    Ok... this has happened to me like three times now. Most notably in the Alex (normal) run where you have the two Oppressors. It also happened in Bismark Ex.

    Whenever there's a mechanic where I have to provoke something, I'll hit the button, Provoke will go off, you'll see the little animation on the screen, but it won't actually provoke and I won't get aggro. The icon will also not show a cool down.

    Just wondering if this has happened to anyone else?
    I mostly run into this with circle of scorn, but it can happen with any oGCD instacast ability. Basically the client thinks it's OK and starts the animation, but then a server packet arrives that says NOOOOOO.

    2 workarounds:
    1. spam the key
    2. wait just a little bit longer after your last action. With practice the timing isn't too hard, but can be variable with latency.
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  2. #12
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    Kallera's Avatar
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    Etoile Kallera
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    Mateus
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    I mostly run into this with circle of scorn, but it can happen with any oGCD instacast ability. Basically the client thinks it's OK and starts the animation, but then a server packet arrives that says NOOOOOO.

    2 workarounds:
    1. spam the key
    2. wait just a little bit longer after your last action. With practice the timing isn't too hard, but can be variable with latency.
    This considerably more helpful response can also be it. I definatrly run into it on NIN mudras due to either the server packet or my changing distance from the mob while using the skill.
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    Last edited by Kallera; 08-20-2015 at 01:18 AM.

  3. #13
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    Captain Flavor
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    Faerie
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by bounddreamer View Post
    My provoke is macro'd to throw a tomahawk right after. You need to do more than just provoke to secure aggro. A couple of problems I've had with it lately have been lag and the mob moving out of range.
    Securing hate is not the issue. The issue, as stated several times by now, is that there's a latency problem that causes provoke to not actually fire when it looks like it did. Hitting it again wont do anything if your provoke never worked in the first place.
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    Sigmakan Kaph
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    Hyperion
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    Ninja Lv 80
    Provoke can be LoS'd, which is likely the issue you are running into.
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  5. #15
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    Yaichiro Shimo
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 80
    It occurs with any other target especially if both of you are moving. The only way to avoid it is to spam Provoke key until you confirm that it's working.
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  6. #16
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    Hex Pathcrosser
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 72
    I notice it most on Oppressors. I stand at the opposite end to grab the 0.5 when he lands and starts walking toward the other tank. I'm facing away from where he comes in, so the moment he passes me is when I hit provoke and follow up with Unmend (I think that's what it's called...purple lights a la shield lob). Nothing. Provoke icon stays as if I had never used it but everything else happens - the animation, the macro text I have, everything else. Other characters are moving around so I doubted it was lag... Even if I spam Unmend, it just doesn't seem to care sometimes, and by then the other tank has a huge number of stacks and I get yelled at for not grabbing the boss.
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  7. #17
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    Kori Fleming
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Sigmakan View Post
    Provoke can be LoS'd, which is likely the issue you are running into.
    ^

    It is a massive pain. My suggestion is if you ever end up doing Savage, Provoke the original Oppressor and have the original MT go to where 0.5 spawns. The 0.5 retains the aggro Oppressor had, so the OT won't have to 'voke it and 0.5 won't run back and forth.

    Don't do that in Normal unless you trust the other tank to understand what you're saying, though.
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  8. #18
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    Mitsurugi Heishiro
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 63
    I had this exact scenario happen as a DRK last week. Wiped hard, due to me not getting the aggro from 0.5. Haven't happend again so far, but im always abit iffy about provoke since then. The spamming unmend and not getting aggro happens now and then aswell.
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