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    Garotte14's Avatar
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    Alayna Lazriel
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Underlord View Post
    If thunder procs off first cast, which tends to be when im about to cast blizzard, I use sharpcast, then hit thunder proc, then thunder will proc again which I use to lengthen thunder. Then it might proc again to lengthen again. To increase dot without downtime during enochian to recast it.
    Maybe I misunderstood, but you don't really want to be using thundecloud procs whenever they come up. It depends on the time left on thunder. Thundercloud is more potent than Fire IV, but only if it's allowed to tick near its full duration. Don't remember the exact time at the moment. But doing something like TC proc > Fire IV > Fire 1 > TC proc would be a dps loss unless you are using the second TC on a different mob. As a general rule, 1 TC per Astral Fire phase unless it's like maybe at the very beginning, and very end.
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    Miranda Madison
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    Twintania
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    White Mage Lv 80
    My core rotation is simply: Blizzard III > Thunder 1 > Enochian > Fire III > RS > Fire IV x2 > Fire > Fire IV x2 > (Thundercloud/Firestarter Proc if any) > Blizzard III > Blizzard IV

    Depending on movement I have to adjust my rotation. If it looks like I will not be able to get off a Fire IV for the second time, I use fire 1 earlier to keep Astral Fire III up.

    I strongly feel that doing any casting before my core rotation is a waste of time that I could be using to cast Fire IVs. So basically, I go straight the point. I have not created a "Straight to the point" opener yet.
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    Sene Hartmann
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    Warrior Lv 42
    Prolly worth noting that BLM currently has one of those rotations that are heavily influenced by what happens during a fight and how prepared you really are for things to go wrong.

    What you should do instead of blindly following ability chains others recommended is learning what each ability really does and how you can use some of them in a creative way once things do not go as planned. One example among many, of course Swiftcast and Sharpcast are best used for DPS soon as they are up, but depending on situation you could just as well use them to keep up vital buffs that would otherwise fall off, causing you a more significant DPS loss. And that is something you best learn by playing yourself and experimenting a bit. You'll eventually come to the same conclusion as most guides out there, but you understood it on a fundamentally different level. One that allows you to actually play the class and not just blindly follow the instructions of others without knowing why you do that.
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    Last edited by Egnasya; 08-20-2015 at 08:06 AM.

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    Underlord's Avatar
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    Underlord Djinn
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    Midgardsormr
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Garotte14 View Post
    Maybe I misunderstood, but you don't really want to be using thundecloud procs whenever they come up. It depends on the time left on thunder. Thundercloud is more potent than Fire IV, but only if it's allowed to tick near its full duration. Don't remember the exact time at the moment. But doing something like TC proc > Fire IV > Fire 1 > TC proc would be a dps loss unless you are using the second TC on a different mob. As a general rule, 1 TC per Astral Fire phase unless it's like maybe at the very beginning, and very end.
    Yea sorry should of clarified that. Ill use thunder proc on one mob, then other proc from swiftcast on a differ mob. Then if proc comes again I recast on 1st mob to lengthen it.
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    V'iuji Za'xary
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    Ravana
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Aurelle_Delacroix View Post
    What do you do for your AoE rotation? I ran an expert the other day and was told to 'get gud' because I don't use Ley Lines too often during trash pulls.
    Sorry! didn't see this question originally ^^

    For my AOE, pretty std really, although I will use LL if up (but not too fussed if I don't have it on)

    I use F3 > F2x3 > Flare > Convert > SwiftFlare > Transpose > F3 > (F2 if tick accommodates) Flare > Repeat from Transpose
    For those fantastic times where we end up with 2 BLM's, I'll single target and they will AOE or vice versa.

    Quote Originally Posted by Twilite View Post
    My core rotation is simply: Blizzard III > Thunder 1 > Enochian > Fire III > RS > Fire IV x2 > Fire > Fire IV x2 > (Thundercloud/Firestarter Proc if any) > Blizzard III > Blizzard IV
    was using this opener originally and then moved to Aikaals one but added a T1 after/before (Eno timer) the first B4. It has seemed to increase my DPS on Faust, but that could have just been lucky crits.

    Quote Originally Posted by Egnasya View Post
    Prolly worth noting that BLM currently has one of those rotations that are heavily influenced by what happens during a fight and how prepared you really are for things to go wrong.
    Agree! I am finding now that I am able to prepare and be ready for certain phases of runs (raid or dungeon). More runs seems to = better output. Even Neverreap isn't that bad now (that last boss though.. ugh)

    Thanks everyone for your tips One big change I have made has been with my Thunder Proc's, I am making much better use of it now than I was previously. I am still learning and getting better each time I play of course, but it helps to understand what other people are doing and seeing if that works for me.
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    Last edited by Viuiji; 08-23-2015 at 10:05 AM. Reason: 1000 limit

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    Darkest Keeper
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    Diabolos
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    For me

    LL>f3>enochain>Rs>F4>Swiftcast>F4>sharpcast>f1>f4>f4>f3 proc>convert>f4>F4>b3>b4>t1

    But I also put 4points into piety to be able to get my B3 in..
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    Last edited by Joenalor; 08-23-2015 at 12:55 PM.

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