Quote Originally Posted by Wetea View Post
I do think that there needs to be an incentive to new pvpers, or we risk stagnating, and queues are already lackluster for a lot of players.
There's already a bunch of incentive already. titles, mounts, commander's set, the previous sets of pvp gear have had their rank requirement removed so you can collect that gear while you're waiting on the 180 set, Eso and Poetic tomestones. I don't know what else you think there needs to be?

I mean, if they don't care about all that and the pvp itself isn't enough to keep them playing, then they just don't care about pvp. And if they don't care about pvp, then they're among the majority of people coming in looking to grab a set of 180 pvp gear to glamour and never come back.

The 180 set is reserved for the hardcore pvpers, just like the dyeable Gordian set is reserved for the hardcore raiders, just like the kirin mount/zeta weapons/death mask blah blah etc etc.