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  1. #21
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    PotatoWafflez's Avatar
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    Endless Paradox
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    Cerberus
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    Gladiator Lv 1
    Quote Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis View Post
    Do you honestly think no1 did the ultimate ballad? And your numbers argument is invalid. Even if only 25% of the people playing the game would enjoy content like that. Do you really want to see that 25% start unsubbing because there's nothing appealing to them in the game?

    I'm sure it wouldnt be hard to tune it for level 60.

    EDIT: It's perfectly ok to add content that not necessarily 100% of the people would enjoy. Otherwise Gold Saucer wouldn't even exist.
    Oh I know they did it, how many do it now though? It wasn't very long lasting content compared to the other hard mode content was my point. I'd rather they spent that dev time on something more long lasting and new.

    So 25% of the player base is going to unsub because they don't get one hard mode of a story trial most people seemingly don't even want to run the easy version of and they will stop running once they get their accessory or more likely their title just to say that they beat the "hard" version?

    In terms of level 60 they still need to rebalance it around the new skills on top of the increased stats and damage output from our higher level gear, its not super hard no, but its still more work that just grabbing the old version and adding it back in the game like the OP was suggesting.
    If they wanted to do it justice it needs new mechanics as well like all the other hard modes do.

    Lots of people wanted gold saucer though, it just wasn't implemented well.
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    Last edited by PotatoWafflez; 08-19-2015 at 12:53 PM.

  2. #22
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    Galaktica's Avatar
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    Evermillion Mariposa
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    Ultros
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    The rewards would have to be pretty insane. People don't even like running SoF as it is now. Bringing back the OG version would require one hell of an incentive.
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  3. #23
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    Nestama's Avatar
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Lamia
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Novaura View Post
    You are aware that not every regular version of the trials had rewards, right? When you do the original versions of the primal trials, there is no chest to draw lots for. In fact, I think the only exception is Thornmarch. So yeah, the "no reward after clearing a trial" excuse does not hold water.
    Compare Steps to fights like Leviathan, Ramuh and Shiva. Those three fights required near to no coordination and were mostly just tank and spank. Steps did something different that required full party cooperation. No reward for the effort left a really bad taste in most players mouth. Thornmarch back in 2.1 was also actually pretty tough, but was nerfed in 2.1X or 2.2 for the same reasons Steps was nerfed (despite dropping weapons).
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  4. #24
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    Nico Nico
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    Goblin
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    Alchemist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Novaura View Post
    ...I want to see the restoration of the original Steps of Faith as a Hard mode in a future patch with everything the way it was before...
    If SE provides the original Steps again and says it is hard/ext. mode, I think no one will agree to it. ^^;
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  5. #25
    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis View Post
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    No one is saying no had one done the content. We're saying no one is gonna do it NOW because there's no incentive to go back and play content that was released after 2.0. Look at Savage Coil, too. People wanted a harder Coil, but even less people attempted it because it was basically fighting a mountain just for a title. Heck, even normal Coil wasn't enjoyed by the majority and most people resorted to using Youtube just to see the story. Steps of Faith is outdated content now and there is zero incentive to go back and do it again. Any rewards given now are going to be trash unless it's yet ANOTHER skittle colored pony.
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  6. #26
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    ShaneDawn's Avatar
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    Shannon Dawn
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    Moogle
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    Bard Lv 90
    Sure, but they would have to make it harder than it was, since the original Steps was piss as well.
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  7. #27
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    Ayaminae Yirien
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    Midgardsormr
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sakuraluna View Post
    Not gonna lie, it was a fun fight if you got into a group that could coordinate well. That wasn't always the case though.
    ^ This. It was more fun than "beat on something in a circle/square room and dodge a few AoEs"
    The downside was, if you knew you were going to fail, you had to wait it out.
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  8. #28
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    Ichi Greyfrost
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    Tonberry
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    Samurai Lv 70
    As someone who has never cleared Steps trial pre-nerf, I would also like to try at least once the original, so I'd know the hardship my fellow warriors of light experienced.

    I played just a month ago, so pretty much everything is post-nerf phase.
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  9. #29
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 90
    The original wasn't even difficult though? Certainly not as difficult as an extreme primal at least. You just had to shoot cannons, virus when he's beating on the doors, and not miss a dragon killer.
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  10. #30
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    Amberyl's Avatar
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    Mizuki Ishikawa
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    Belias
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    ....Are you sure people can still clear it now?
    Had a group of fresh clears that only managed it in the final minute, on god know's which try.

    "Have you watched a guide?"
    "We're hardcore, we don't do guides."
    "This is a jump-through-hoops exercise. Some of you won't even be using your own weapons. Could you watch a guide quick?"
    "We're hardcore, we don't do guides."

    Almost the full instance time later.

    "Sooooo close! Phew!"
    "So sorry, we should have watched a guide."
    "Thank you so much for talking us through!"
    "Couldn't have done it without you <3"

    Yeah... hourglass effect isn't over. And no, Duty Finder groups still can't clear the watered-down version easily.

    But as a non-mandatory HM/EX? Yeah, definitely bring it on.
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