Bring Back Original Steps of Faith as Hard/Extreme Mode!

[Novaura]

After Patch 2.57 made Steps of Faith easier to minimize the "hourglass effect" and get more people clearing Realm Reborn, it also took away the countless cowards who bailed on the challenge before it even started.

But now that the "hourglass effect" is gone and everyone can clear Steps of Faith before Vishap can even reach the third barrier (because the latest group I was in had Vishap beat immediately after the second barrier was broken), I want to see the restoration of the original Steps of Faith as a Hard mode in a future patch with everything the way it was before.

Because now that everyone can clear Steps of Faith with the greatest of ease, it's time to give this trial the Hard/Extreme Mode treatment that has been given to all the primal trials. I want a challenge!

[MilesSaintboroguh]

....Are you sure people can still clear it now?

[Amberyl]

....Are you sure people can still clear it now?

Had a group of fresh clears that only managed it in the final minute, on god know's which try.

"Have you watched a guide?"
"We're hardcore, we don't do guides."
"This is a jump-through-hoops exercise. Some of you won't even be using your own weapons. Could you watch a guide quick?"
"We're hardcore, we don't do guides."

Almost the full instance time later.

"Sooooo close! Phew!"
"So sorry, we should have watched a guide."
"Thank you so much for talking us through!"
"Couldn't have done it without you <3"

Yeah... hourglass effect isn't over. And no, Duty Finder groups still can't clear the watered-down version easily.

But as a non-mandatory HM/EX? Yeah, definitely bring it on.

[Rita1989]

Why would they add that when no one wanted to do the original.

[Nestama]

Why would they add that when no one wanted to do the original.

No one liked it because it offered nothing as a reward. Effort in an MMO demands a reward.

[Novaura]

No one liked it because it offered nothing as a reward. Effort in an MMO demands a reward.

You are aware that not every regular version of the trials had rewards, right? When you do the original versions of the primal trials, there is no chest to draw lots for. In fact, I think the only exception is Thornmarch. So yeah, the "no reward after clearing a trial" excuse does not hold water.

[Colorful]

You are aware that not every regular version of the trials had rewards, right? When you do the original versions of the primal trials, there is no chest to draw lots for. In fact, I think the only exception is Thornmarch. So yeah, the "no reward after clearing a trial" excuse does not hold water.

All the other primals could be done quite easily, Steps actually required a few people to cooperate with each other.

[Nestama]

You are aware that not every regular version of the trials had rewards, right? When you do the original versions of the primal trials, there is no chest to draw lots for. In fact, I think the only exception is Thornmarch. So yeah, the "no reward after clearing a trial" excuse does not hold water.

Compare Steps to fights like Leviathan, Ramuh and Shiva. Those three fights required near to no coordination and were mostly just tank and spank. Steps did something different that required full party cooperation. No reward for the effort left a really bad taste in most players mouth. Thornmarch back in 2.1 was also actually pretty tough, but was nerfed in 2.1X or 2.2 for the same reasons Steps was nerfed (despite dropping weapons).

[Zeonx]

People still cannot win this one.

they struggle and lose, just because you won and think it's easy doesn't mean you will stay in the dungeon to help those who fail.

You would probably say no thanks and run on the first or second wipe.

This is why just leave it alone its done and old news time to move onto new content.

[Boyzby]

People didn't even want to do it before, so what makes you think they will now? I don't think any reasonable amount of incentives would be enough to persuade players to queue into it willingly.

I suppose at the very least you have to select it yourself, so people wouldn't quit immediately or after one attempt, when seeing what they got from the Trial Roulette.