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    Petition Against Ifrit Weapon Designs

    Hello,

    I am very concerned with how these new items might effect the overall image of the game. I will try to state my points without trolling too much or being emotional. I am a designer myself and as far as uniformity goes these things just do not belong.

    The Weapons
    Based on the video most of us have seen I think that the new weapons are too bulky, tacky looking, and are out of place.

    All of the weapons themselves are huge, fat, and clunky. It would appear that they seem from another game almost. When I saw them they made me think of WoW, Aion, and other games as such. It is almost of a Korean MMO design. I think they devalue the game's integrity because they just look cheap and unsophisticated.

    It's as if the designers of the weapons couldn't think of anything better and just decided to settle for the sake of getting the Ifrit battle released on time.
    "Oh we will just slap horns on everything and make them glow! Because it's Ifrit! It Must Be Horns!".

    The worst of all the weapons for me would be the pugilist and archer weapons because they are so giant. The THM weapon looking like PS3 Move Controller or Phallic entity. They all just need more development time.

    What are other people's thoughts on these items? When i ask other in game it seems i get like 75% negative feedback on them and then 25% of people actually like them.

    Please reconsider these SE,
    Especially this coming from a Pugilist, we feel neglected.

    -Xion

    EDIT: It was brought to my attention that calling this a petition might be a too aggressive word. I want to say this is more of a discussion than an outright petition. I apologizes for any confusion about this thread. Please contribute to this thread with useful commentary on whether you agree or disagree and what should or should not change.
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    Last edited by Xionraserei; 09-30-2011 at 03:47 AM. Reason: Title Discrepency

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    I don't see a problem with that. I like how the weapons look.

    I just hope they can be crafted. Cause if they aren't they are gonna be useless when the materia system comes out.
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    I agree! +1 for you petition! This is no korean MMO to have this kind of s#!tty stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lienn View Post
    I agree! +1 for you petition! This is no korean MMO to have this kind of s#!tty stuff.
    this is a Japanese mmo though, and in Japanese culture anime is very popular. in anime glowing weapons and such are popular. so you would expect some Japanese culture to bleed into their games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    this is a Japanese mmo though, and in Japanese culture anime is very popular. in anime glowing weapons and such are popular. so you would expect some Japanese culture to bleed into their games.
    This is a Japanese mmo with a very non-anime art style. If anime bleeds into their game it's a problem and needs to be taken care of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    This is a Japanese mmo with a very non-anime art style. If anime bleeds into their game it's a problem and needs to be taken care of.
    The thing is, though, how many times can they design a realistic bow or axe before they start recycling designs? People already complain about reskins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephrick View Post
    The thing is, though, how many times can they design a realistic bow or axe before they start recycling designs? People already complain about reskins.
    Well for example, look at Final Fantasy XI. The games been around for so long and they are still coming out with fantastic items and weapons that are unique or modified enough to be unique. They also still retain their realism and sophistication.

    People complain about the reskins because they are so obvious. They are also not well thought out. If the Dev staff from XI can keep holding their own then I expect the new Dev team for XIV to uphold the same quality level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephrick View Post
    The thing is, though, how many times can they design a realistic bow or axe before they start recycling designs? People already complain about reskins.
    There's quite a few design directions to choose from. Even these weapons would be fine if they toned down on the designs a bit, especially on the bow...and the knuckles. The glowing part is hardly much of an issue, although it certainly emphasizes the real issue.

    Now they're simply unnecessarily big and bulky, perhaps in order to appeal to the type of audience that thinks the bigger and flashier the better, regardless of context.
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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    this is a Japanese mmo though, and in Japanese culture anime is very popular. in anime glowing weapons and such are popular. so you would expect some Japanese culture to bleed into their games.
    Yup. Also as it has been said in several threads already korean mmos got the idea of huge weapon designs from japanese games, so...shame on a japanese game for using japanese designs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    this is a Japanese mmo though, and in Japanese culture anime is very popular. in anime glowing weapons and such are popular. so you would expect some Japanese culture to bleed into their games.
    Their culture does have a lot of influence from anime however it is a little misguided to say these items are because of that. When I played FFXI (2003-2008) I never saw outrageous items so their anime addiction never butted into that.

    Some free to play games with small staffs and such do the big weapon design to be flashy and stuff. Those are Korean also though I think. Revealing clothing and huge flashy weapons. It's like they need it to sell it.

    I've always championed Final Fantasy because they usually go for Practicality in their items along with breaking away from tradition a little bit. Its that fun line between conservatism (which is also a Japanese quality) and openness. Everything is usually very calculated and thought through. That's why these new weapons alarm me so much. They are too much unlike this game is styled.
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