Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
That's as maybe, but they're still third party software that's still against the ToS. And here's hoping they stay that way.
They're against the ToS because allowing 3rd party programs (which are not developed by SE, so they have no control over what goes into them) would mean opening up a lot of loopholes for abuse -- not because using them is inherently bad.

That's why YoshiP didn't flat out say "No, they're bad"
https://youtu.be/3-WXYg-S05U?t=6m1s